why don't I just link you his own words

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Zyklon those tweets are crazy. Rubio said something similarly slimey

http://web.archive.org/web/20080515023323/http://www.anus.com:80/zine/music/

he cast the net wide for this term

note that it is encompassing metal music

I jumped into the convo because i have had similar thoughts about a certain conversation or communication between the forward edges of some genres

including metal

go on

Britain is dead.

well for example the increasing similarities between some "electronic" music like Aphex Twin and modern "classical" or "art" music like Karlheinz Stockhausen

or Philip Glass

who basically writes techno for piano

yeah I see what you mean

you're right too

but this gets pretty metaphysical

hah we don't have to get into it

the possible implications are vast

get into your ideas @UOC

want to hear the gist

well mostly i'm interested in the direction of the flow. I think some stuff comes into the genres from art - I think Aphex Twin has listened to Stockhausen

but some stuff I think is the other way around- for example I think that Philip Glass has borrowed some ideas about repetition-as-structure from early electronic guys like Moroder

I think "art" still leads metal, although some relatively ambitious metal artists have begun converging with avant garde classic artists

later Opeth and Moondog, for example

at a certain point of maturity, lots of metal groups seem to drop a lot of the indicia of "metal"

the distorted guitars, for instance

this would include the dungeon synth guys and some guys who are basically just folk artists

like Empyrium

Tenhi

but they got to it by way of playing black metal early on

and that is very audible in the sound

i have a question

go

is it wrong of me, to think that the world at large, should be alot more like this videogame trailer ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJJ9TcGxhNY

is it wrong to feel that we as a planetary race, should be alot further along, not only technologically, but also culturally, and spiritually ?

that looks like a lame commercial from the 80s for Boeing

Delay is inherent within a democratic system

gridlock was the very purpose of our founders

these things are not physically possible

its not a straight line to galaxy wars