it will take one of the big players to get the ball rolling. hopefully DS will, instead of just solely moving around from place to place. they might not be able to get back up at all now.

amerika could start something too of course, to set an example

decentralization is useful, needs to happen

need something like torrents for chat, which in a sense IRC already is

but it needs to be taken up to that next level

see what a niche even Discord filled

just put chat and voice together in a convenient client

bam, huge success

but its too idealistic to think about a future like that, right now what should be focused on is alternatives

the field is open for alt-right media of many kinds

there are tools already there it just takes someone to get the ball rolling. it's a good time now as they're ramping up the shutdown.

twitter seems like an unsustainable thing in the first place

so probably gab will also fail

it's not somethign that can happen at an invidual grass roots level i think

i don't think i'm just complaining when i could do it myself

nothing is going to happen to Discord in general

see, I don't like this attitude

don't let anyone tell you anything about what you are doing

or that you are complaining

complain away

these are just expectations absorbed from the social world, which have decreasing relevance

alt-right literally is complaining on the internet

that's what it started from

your words are agency

there's a lot worth complaining about it in the world

the ability to have your message reach people far away, is extremely powerful

and not in the sense of some big soapbox

IRC with tor is a good solution for the privacy-minded

just reaching individuals I mean

I don't think its privacy that is desired as much as independence

irc gives both

I don't think anyone would care too much if random people read this chat, but it being shut down or curtailed is different

IRC existed for years, and its great, but its obvious from Discord's success

that convenience is very, very important

Discord has definite advantages in user friendliness and the ability to share images and voice chat easily is very nice

its a really big deal I think

this thing is bigger than videogames

i wonder if its possible to make an irc client with at least the image sharing if not voip

mumble always exists for voip as a decentralized open source solution

you probably could, but it would be a mess

probably, would be tough for people on older clients