there are tools already there it just takes someone to get the ball rolling. it's a good time now as they're ramping up the shutdown.

twitter seems like an unsustainable thing in the first place

so probably gab will also fail

it's not somethign that can happen at an invidual grass roots level i think

i don't think i'm just complaining when i could do it myself

nothing is going to happen to Discord in general

see, I don't like this attitude

don't let anyone tell you anything about what you are doing

or that you are complaining

complain away

these are just expectations absorbed from the social world, which have decreasing relevance

alt-right literally is complaining on the internet

that's what it started from

your words are agency

there's a lot worth complaining about it in the world

the ability to have your message reach people far away, is extremely powerful

and not in the sense of some big soapbox

IRC with tor is a good solution for the privacy-minded

just reaching individuals I mean

I don't think its privacy that is desired as much as independence

irc gives both

I don't think anyone would care too much if random people read this chat, but it being shut down or curtailed is different

IRC existed for years, and its great, but its obvious from Discord's success

that convenience is very, very important

Discord has definite advantages in user friendliness and the ability to share images and voice chat easily is very nice

its a really big deal I think

this thing is bigger than videogames

i wonder if its possible to make an irc client with at least the image sharing if not voip

mumble always exists for voip as a decentralized open source solution

you probably could, but it would be a mess

probably, would be tough for people on older clients

last time the irc protocol was updated was 2000 it seems

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2812

zeronet with tor or at least vpn is a good option

i've used it it works good. they have discord/chan type chat rooms in there. you can make anything.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40940044

man the fucking BBC

>accidentally

if you don't use tor or vpn though it's very poor for privacy. everything you do is logged, which is how the whole things works. it's like a blockchain.

train hitting CNN reporter, come on

its so obvious