Message from @Jigsaw

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2017-08-26 18:02:26 UTC  

its a worldly ideology

2017-08-26 18:02:32 UTC  

I see it as seeking to form man after an ideal

2017-08-26 18:02:35 UTC  

which means its underpinnings are a fat load of nothing

2017-08-26 18:02:35 UTC  

Thoughts on Richard Spencer?

2017-08-26 18:02:43 UTC  

I see it as aspiration to a higher state of being

2017-08-26 18:02:44 UTC  

yeah, a worldly ideal, i.e. satanic

2017-08-26 18:02:49 UTC  

no, not a higher state

2017-08-26 18:02:52 UTC  

a lost state

2017-08-26 18:03:00 UTC  

but how is it any different than aspiring to be smarter or more fit or richer?

2017-08-26 18:03:03 UTC  

well, maybe via that a new man in a nietzschean way

2017-08-26 18:03:05 UTC  

its the same

2017-08-26 18:03:09 UTC  

You say Nazism is godless, yet it requires spiritual belief.

2017-08-26 18:03:14 UTC  

I see it as self improvement applied at the group level

2017-08-26 18:03:19 UTC  

improving Us instead of improving Me

2017-08-26 18:03:19 UTC  

there is no such thing as "spiritual belief" only faith

2017-08-26 18:03:30 UTC  

Call it what you will, it's required.

2017-08-26 18:03:33 UTC  

how

2017-08-26 18:03:41 UTC  

It's known Hitler and the Pagan LARP'er Himmler, detested Athiesm.

2017-08-26 18:03:59 UTC  

Athiests were kicked out of the movement, this is a fact.

2017-08-26 18:04:14 UTC  

there was a connection between Atheism and communism at the time

2017-08-26 18:04:15 UTC  

Hitler and Himmler frequently cited some kind of 'providence'.

2017-08-26 18:04:24 UTC  

but they were essentially atheists as well in that they didn't believe in any God

2017-08-26 18:04:24 UTC  

Not to mention SS rituals.

2017-08-26 18:04:37 UTC  

Which had a belief in higher beings.

2017-08-26 18:04:38 UTC  

LOL the Nazis weren't atheists, that's a well-known fact.

2017-08-26 18:04:47 UTC  

their "God" was an image of their own past, or future

2017-08-26 18:05:01 UTC  

Nazism is an atheistic ideology

2017-08-26 18:05:08 UTC  

It's not.

2017-08-26 18:05:17 UTC  

yes it is, you cannot be a Nazi and a Christian for instance

2017-08-26 18:05:38 UTC  

It requires faith.

2017-08-26 18:06:05 UTC  

freethinking movements, atheism etc. were linked to communism

2017-08-26 18:06:09 UTC  

but what is the nazi faith?

2017-08-26 18:06:22 UTC  

Keep in mind, National Socialist idealogy originates from Volkisch belief and esotericsm.

2017-08-26 18:06:29 UTC  

originates from, sure

2017-08-26 18:06:46 UTC  

just like a lot of modern liberalism originates from protestant christianity

2017-08-26 18:06:58 UTC  

understand @Jigsaw that he does not recognize anything non-abrahamic as a religion

2017-08-26 18:07:04 UTC  

wrong

2017-08-26 18:07:26 UTC  

its really simple, adhere to a true faith (any historical faith)

2017-08-26 18:07:30 UTC  

he essentially sees nazism as just man's pride attempting to reach for heaven without god's sanction, another tower of babel

2017-08-26 18:07:32 UTC  

and you are religious

2017-08-26 18:07:40 UTC  

that's about right