Message from @Jigsaw

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2017-08-26 19:17:28 UTC  

yes @Jigsaw , the thing is the neo-nazi/white supremacy type of ideologies implicitly come from a position of weakness

2017-08-26 19:17:34 UTC  

and that is inherently a turn off

2017-08-26 19:17:47 UTC  

for a little while, a spell has been cast by memes

2017-08-26 19:17:57 UTC  

but charlotesville has dispelled it once again

2017-08-26 19:18:18 UTC  

this is never what "alt right" was to start with, the Spencerites and people like Greg Johnson were more marginal figures

2017-08-26 19:18:51 UTC  

Steve Sailer, the MRAs, Gamergate, Orthosphere, the HBDers

2017-08-26 19:18:57 UTC  

they are all more significant

2017-08-26 19:19:13 UTC  

but then the opposition used the usual method of self fulfilling prophecy

2017-08-26 19:19:14 UTC  

via framing

2017-08-26 19:19:24 UTC  

and made nazi deplorables real

2017-08-26 19:19:41 UTC  

the whole power of the alt right is that they are actually normal and sensible, its the world around them that's crazy

2017-08-26 19:19:46 UTC  

and that's where the sympathy comes from

2017-08-26 19:21:59 UTC  

there is nothing more sick and broken than the modern white young man

2017-08-26 19:22:13 UTC  

these people, you people, have little insight into your condition

2017-08-26 19:22:17 UTC  

beyond rage

2017-08-26 19:22:25 UTC  

and the rest of the world doesn't understand you either, nor you them

2017-08-26 19:22:49 UTC  

the gulf is so wide only a handful of people do

2017-08-26 19:24:55 UTC  

the problem is, no one realizes who the enemy is

2017-08-26 19:25:08 UTC  

I admit that I became a self identified White Nationalist mainly as you said, out of a place of confusion and dissatisfaction with the modern world, and after seeing establishment 'right wing' politics wasn't standing for what I thought was important.

2017-08-26 19:25:11 UTC  

and if you tell them, they won't believe you, they are incapable of believing it

2017-08-26 19:25:41 UTC  

Which was mainly, conservation of tradition, culture and importantly race.

2017-08-26 19:25:52 UTC  

people have been made incapable of understanding what is at stake, and why

2017-08-26 19:25:58 UTC  

I don't actually think there is a solution

2017-08-26 19:26:08 UTC  

but maybe for individuals

2017-08-26 19:26:31 UTC  

@Jigsaw , who wants to destroy these things, and more importantly, why?

2017-08-26 19:26:38 UTC  

in whose benefit is it to destroy these things, ultimate benefit

2017-08-26 19:27:32 UTC  

I've looked for that, of course there's the establishment left, conspiracies involving lizard people and secret societies, but lots of it seems to point to the International financers, or more importantly what we'd call the Jews.

2017-08-26 19:27:42 UTC  

it is my belief that >90% of alt right nazi types are not even minimally racist

2017-08-26 19:28:12 UTC  

agree

2017-08-26 19:28:15 UTC  

@Jigsaw Who is a good question to answer

2017-08-26 19:28:23 UTC  

but Why is a more important and illuminating question

2017-08-26 19:28:37 UTC  

10% of ashkenazi Jews are homos

2017-08-26 19:28:46 UTC  

every liberal folly, they suffer for it

2017-08-26 19:29:04 UTC  

they are not immune to the sickness they spread, in fact they are even more sick

2017-08-26 19:29:28 UTC  

I wouldn't call myself racist in the means of saying 'I hate every single nigger because he is a nigger.', but more so because I simply think my country should be for its people and not others, if I'm a racist for believing in inherant white supremacy in a white country as I believe it should be, then so be it.

2017-08-26 19:30:00 UTC  

its a good principle

2017-08-26 19:30:13 UTC  

but I think most alt rights adhere to it at the level of principle

2017-08-26 19:30:21 UTC  

they would happily have black friends etc.

2017-08-26 19:30:31 UTC  

you can't say that about a Stormfronter

2017-08-26 19:32:22 UTC  

I suppose you'd be right, I don't believe some potbelly trailer trash is superior to an educated and physically fit black man simply because he has what could be considered 'Aryan genes'. I'd much rather associate and discuss with the black man in that scenario.

2017-08-26 19:32:34 UTC  

I AM NOT RACIST