Message from @fallot

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2017-08-27 22:43:10 UTC  

it's the best modern city design I've encountered yet

2017-08-27 22:43:13 UTC  

but it is a bit artificial

2017-08-27 22:43:13 UTC  

that is a related but conceptually distinct zoning practice

2017-08-27 22:44:38 UTC  

you should go to Los Angeles or Phoenix AZ sometime

2017-08-27 22:44:44 UTC  

car cities

2017-08-27 22:44:47 UTC  

horrible

2017-08-27 22:44:50 UTC  

I've google mapped American cities

2017-08-27 22:44:53 UTC  

they do look horrible

2017-08-27 22:45:17 UTC  

they are unpleasant human environments

2017-08-27 22:45:21 UTC  

are you sure that is entirely cars

2017-08-27 22:45:24 UTC  

I think the sheer free space

2017-08-27 22:45:25 UTC  

in the US

2017-08-27 22:45:27 UTC  

also contributes

2017-08-27 22:45:43 UTC  

Sheer free space is definitely a factor is residentially zoned areas

2017-08-27 22:45:58 UTC  

but the root of the problem I believe to be car culture

2017-08-27 22:46:12 UTC  

you're probably right

2017-08-27 22:46:17 UTC  

because residentially zoned areas don't exist in cities the way they do now absent car culture

2017-08-27 22:46:18 UTC  

I think I read an MPC thread about it

2017-08-27 22:46:22 UTC  

suburbs and exurbs

2017-08-27 22:46:27 UTC  

oh yes

2017-08-27 22:46:34 UTC  

Islamabad sort of feels like one big suburb

2017-08-27 22:47:26 UTC  

the older big paki cities have similar issues

2017-08-27 22:47:31 UTC  

also contributes to heat island effect since access is determined only by more driveable asphalt and concrete

2017-08-27 22:47:33 UTC  

as US ones

2017-08-27 22:47:41 UTC  

cities are hotter, less shady, less pleasant

2017-08-27 22:47:49 UTC  

louder, brighter, more polluted

2017-08-27 22:48:47 UTC  

more dangerous for cyclists and pedestrians

2017-08-27 22:49:30 UTC  

I don't want to be a luddite - cars are probably better than being knee deep in horse shit all the time

2017-08-27 22:49:50 UTC  

and they're great for getting from city to city

2017-08-27 22:50:00 UTC  

but I think intra-city travel should be reconsidered

2017-08-27 22:50:09 UTC  

yeah

2017-08-27 22:50:13 UTC  

de-scale the world

2017-08-27 22:50:35 UTC  

but in temperament, I doubt you are a local-ist

2017-08-27 22:50:51 UTC  

you seem more likely to think its a good and beautiful idea

2017-08-27 22:51:16 UTC  

but?

2017-08-27 22:51:39 UTC  

but nothing, that was it, its just funny

2017-08-27 22:52:11 UTC  

someone less fundamentally rooted and connected to the society around themselves

2017-08-27 22:52:16 UTC  

someone more open to experience

2017-08-27 22:52:26 UTC  

being more likely to support such a radical change in living arrangements

2017-08-27 22:52:43 UTC  

whereas the people whose instincts benefit from this are likely to think you're crazy etc.

2017-08-27 22:53:18 UTC  

I am pretty open I would say