with their art

to inflame the imaginations of mortals

some underlying humanistic seeming goal

"Alternately, introverted intuition, can suddenly fix on the interviewer and is very intense. It has that “burning through” or “looking through” quality to it. Depending on the mien or comportment of the INTJ at any given moment, they will show one or the other or both. I think some INTJs when they are in a more defensive mode such that they truly do not want to talk to the interviewer/potential conversationalist will have a very burning and penetrating stare of disdain, condescension, and judgment."

Tolkien had such a goal, but his initial reason was just to amuse himself

And I think that really continued through his whole life

can't always go by people's stated reasons

dang

but that fits more with INFP

Whose

Ok

I have been accused of burning stares of disdain over my lifetime

His stated reason was to create a mythology for the English

yeah I mentioned it earlier

I have to watch it not to stare at patients

But I think that's not as true

while I take a history

even if I smile, it doesn't help

have to really go out of my way to say things like "yeah" "uh huh" "go on" "oh dear" etc.

creating a mythology is a humanistic goal @devolved

@devolved Mosely just linked me this

http://educate-yourself.org/tg/franklincoverupexcerptwashtimesphoto.shtml

Yeah but I'm saying his stated goal seems not as real as vargs

They are different

http://kutv.com/news/local/lds-church-supports-imagine-dragons-lgbtq-festival

Where is mosely

dunno, didn't ask

he PMs me every now and then

@devolved mythology = inflaming the imagination/spirit of mortals in a much more profound way than Varg's intent

Varg is now moving towards this

both with his music and videos

however, I have no opinion on Tolkien's type

no strong opinion

@devolved I'm trying to look for Mormon responses to this thing

got any links? A comment section is sufficient

Yes, I'm in a few groups but they're all private

There are basically two factions of commenters in the conservative groups I'm in

One side is saying the church is being infiltrated by cultural marxists or evil or virtue signalers or whatever

https://voat.co/v/Identitarian/2089507

The other says that the church is led by God and knows things that we don't know so we should not stir up strife

Etc