Message from @fallot

Discord ID: 352947330422669312


2017-08-31 22:42:26 UTC  

The holy grail is a lot like the Gole

2017-08-31 22:42:34 UTC  

why do you see it like that

2017-08-31 22:42:38 UTC  

as an imposition

2017-08-31 22:42:43 UTC  

rather than a european christianity

2017-08-31 22:42:45 UTC  

Because the core of Christianity does not have that

2017-08-31 22:42:54 UTC  

so what? what is the core of paganism?

2017-08-31 22:43:01 UTC  

there is no such thing really

2017-08-31 22:43:19 UTC  

europeans had european values, they became christian, their european values became christianized

2017-08-31 22:43:28 UTC  

when they were pagan, they were pagan-ized

2017-08-31 22:43:40 UTC  

when they become ba'hai in the future, perhaps similar will happen

2017-08-31 22:43:53 UTC  

same goes for any religion, anywhere, in a cultural context

2017-08-31 22:44:09 UTC  

Christianity would never emerge naturally from Europeans. They should have what is natural to them, as you should have what is natural toy ou

2017-08-31 22:44:39 UTC  

"what is natural to them" is fallacious

2017-08-31 22:44:46 UTC  

it happened, you are the product of it

2017-08-31 22:44:50 UTC  

its natural

2017-08-31 22:44:51 UTC  

Unfortunately, it is not an empty canvas that European ideals can be painted upon

2017-08-31 22:45:37 UTC  

It is ill equipped to nourish the European soul.

2017-08-31 22:45:48 UTC  

that's a metaphysical argument, I can't say anything against it

2017-08-31 22:45:51 UTC  

except that I disagree

2017-08-31 22:45:53 UTC  

a lot

2017-08-31 22:46:41 UTC  

my ancestors were hindus, I like some things about hinduism, but I can't ignore generations of development in the islamic context either

2017-08-31 22:46:50 UTC  

this is besides the fact of my belief in the truth of the faith

2017-08-31 22:46:57 UTC  

even if I became an apostate

2017-08-31 22:47:01 UTC  

I would still be a muslim in a sense

2017-08-31 22:47:07 UTC  

its not something I can divest myself of

2017-08-31 22:47:25 UTC  

And I can never be anything but pagan

2017-08-31 22:47:32 UTC  

but you aren't pagan

2017-08-31 22:47:38 UTC  

maybe something new

2017-08-31 22:47:40 UTC  

that you call pagan

2017-08-31 22:47:49 UTC  

more accurately I'd say that kind of mindset is simply anti-christian

2017-08-31 22:48:02 UTC  

neopagan is probably the best term

2017-08-31 22:48:08 UTC  

I feel sorry for Christians

2017-08-31 22:48:12 UTC  

I don't take them seriously

2017-08-31 22:48:21 UTC  

The problem is not Christianity, but a lack of something positive

2017-08-31 22:48:40 UTC  

devout christians seem like the healthiest europeans to me

2017-08-31 22:49:28 UTC  

anyway, I think we've reached the end of a back and forth

2017-08-31 22:50:15 UTC  

I think Varg is one of the greatest artists in many decades, but I also think he's a bit foolish

2017-08-31 22:50:25 UTC  

I am certainly no disciple of Vikernes

2017-08-31 22:50:31 UTC  

oh, my mistake

2017-08-31 22:50:39 UTC  

do you like his music?

2017-08-31 22:50:41 UTC  

Burzum is great, however