that's right

They'd just be placating their communities

And be worse than non believers perhaps

that does seem reasonable, doesn't it?

Perfectly.

so the whole hypothetical was not about your religion, but mine

I am having some trouble and not quite sure what to do

Christianity is just social glue for a lot of people now.

I am not a christian, I am a mormon

What happened?

we believe in two specific prophets, who gave us a specific book we take as holy scripture. Mainstream mormons listen very intently to this book and to the modern leaders of the church. However, approximately 9,500 pages of modern and carefully documented sermons by the early leaders of our religion exist, however nobody follows them, nobody talks about them, but everyone knows they exist. They are a big giant taboo. I am starting to be called an apostate for directly reading the compiled words of our own prophets.

Why do they discount the sermons?

they don't know. If you ask them they can't tell you. However, they sneeringly refer to them as "non canonical, apocrypha"

"early leaders" are they prophets?

we believe so, yes, as prerequisite to believing in our religion

Why do they refer to them as apocrypha?

because they are not canonized by our leaders today.

Are current leaders prophets as well?

allegedly

If it's a sure thing that earlier leaders were prophets, then it's a sure thing that current leaders aren't.

As contradiction couldn't exist.

that does seem clear, doesn't it?

Unless earlier teachings were explicitly timed.

no, they were not timed, they explicitly stated they were never to be overturned.

You are not a mormon

They used language such as "the eternal law of heaven, which cannot be withdrawn," and "thus it always was and ever shall be"

Yes, then.

It's clear as day.

Can't be argued.

Start your own religion and introduce it into the program at the detox clinic.

The current leaders wouldn't be prophets, and would be apostates.

so then... let's say you were the true god and you set prophets on the earth, and then some retards overturned all their doctrines while continuing the true religion in name only, and one guy called bullshit and read the words of the prophets you sent anyway and tried to obey them. How would that look to you

let's say you were somehow assigned by god to be part of the process of judging whether or not people should go to heaven or hell, and you saw that situation play out

God would protect his prophets from erring in matters of his religion.

If they err, it means god didn't send them.

And they're frauds.

To be fought.

Is that what happened with you?

precisely

brb cooking

9500 pages on top of the bible is a lot, it should be left to god fearing scholars to frame it and make sense of it.