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"Which christians are heading towards apostasy? Well, it depends on their motivations. Even doing the right thing for the wrong reasons is bad. The old testament clearly says this"
Let's start here:
1. What is apostasy in this sperg's mind?
2. If even doing everything right but having the wrong thoughts is still apostasy, how in the fuck do you know which thoughts are right?
3. where is any of this found in his bible?
Is this faggot seriously just making it up as he goes? How is he any better than a kentucky preacher denying darwin?
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But do we know our own motivations for sure? Well, we better had (and if we do not know, we had better find out as quickly as possible) - that is all I can say; because nobody else knows for sure. And if we know our own motivations are correct, then we can and should Stand Against The World (because the world is badly-motivated, and sure to be wrong). ```
Wait... first off, nobody knows all of their motivations, that is what the unconscious mind is. Secondly, he never provides even the slightest, most loose framework for determining correctness of one's motivations. He in no uncertain terms says having the right motivations is the difference between heaven and hell despite equally good works, but provides not even the slightest way of measuring good vs unacceptable motivations
does that not seem like somewhat of an oversight?
he literally said a whole post without actually saying anything
no wonder dallot likes this guy, their thought processes are equally schizophrenic and full of neologism
okay, back to the 2008 stuff
let's start here http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2008/01/
this is unreadable
this is literally schizophrenic rambling
Man. That German Revolution hit me hard.
Big if true!
okay, now we might have some paydirt to actually comment on: http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2008/09/
```One of C.S. Lewis’s most famous arguments in support of Christianity is that the instinctive but otherworldly yearning emotion of ‘joy’ (in German, Sehnsucht) implies that there exists some means of satisfying this urge; otherwise humans would not experience it.
This is sometimes termed the ‘argument from desire’. In brief, it states that because humans profoundly and spontaneously desire something not of this world, the experience suggests the reality of the supernatural. Lewis used the argument in many of his best known Christian writings. In Mere Christianity, he argues that ‘[i]f I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was made for another world’. In ‘The Weight of Glory’, he notes that ‘we remain conscious of a desire which no natural happiness will satisfy’. And in the autobiographical Surprised by Joy, he comments that ‘[i]n a sense, the central story of [his] life is about nothing else’. ```
Speaking as someone who actually believes in a religion superficially similar to christianity, this is still some of the most retarded logic I ever have heard of
his rationale here boils down to
```I cannot desire anything unless it exists. I desire X. Therefore, X exists.```
however, that's entirely retarded. I desire to chug frappuccinos 24/7/365 while having no health effects and never getting remotely fat from it at all. Does that imply that the means exists somewhere to do that, and I experienced it before and just forgot it?
no, that doesn't make any fucking sense, at all
his presumption that "the supernatural existing is the simplest explanation" entirely bypasses making any kind of list of possibilities and looking at what's most likely, he just jumps straight to the conclusion, "it's simplest and thus most accurate"
how is he sure people do not desire something heaven like because they get pleasure from not having to struggle and from only having nice experiences, therefore they daydream what the most pleasant and least stressful possible experience might be?
moving on...
article continues as long autism detailing out how tolkien, a Generic Christian, weaved Christian themes and assumptions into his work. Well, no shit, his world view comes out in his work. That's real rocket science
in his long autistic itemization of ways silmarillion stuff overlaps with his version of christianity, this stands out to me:
```The implication, never made fully clear, is that Men in their freedom may have deviated from their original role as conceived by ‘the One’, and been corrupted or intimidated into worshipping Morgoth, or at least into doing his will and in some way serving his purposes. This, it is suggested, may be the cause of Men’s mortality as such, along with a progressive shortening of their lifespan and a permanent dissatisfaction and alienation from the world they inhabit and even their own bodies. ```
Wait a minute, so in this case, men do the wrong work (worshiping Morgoth) despite the right intent (to not do it) and thus fall and become mortal
did he not just elaborate how doing the wrong works with the right intent or something is better than to do the right works with the wrong intent?
who is the brown eyed
he looks kinda metis
Evalion husbando
actually he looks severely metis
FETAL ALCHOLISM
fetal wogism
Exilarch get in voice chat
no I'm sick, throat hurts
busy shitting all over bruce charlton's life
Too much deep throat?
yes the BBC rubbed a blister
Snake call me deepthroat
Fuck those games are retarded
so far this is just a giant text wall of "see? tolkien said christian stuff"
this whole thing is just setting tolkien up as his personal kentucky preacher