Message from @charles watson

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2018-01-15 22:40:51 UTC  

respectability

2018-01-15 22:41:02 UTC  

Explain why a suit is automatically more respectable than a toga

2018-01-15 22:41:27 UTC  

of your peers. When we go to conferences we dress, because it is a sign of good etiquette

2018-01-15 22:41:44 UTC  

these are signs of being civilized

2018-01-15 22:41:52 UTC  

What does that mean

2018-01-15 22:42:29 UTC  

Pretend I am a space alien and all I see is humans wearing cloth. Why is the cloth arrangement you call a suit something to favor

2018-01-15 22:43:07 UTC  

How is this different than a Congo nigger explaining why it's objectively respectable to have a large lip plate

2018-01-15 22:43:37 UTC  

well. I don't have a very good description, but lets compare this line of thinking to the difference in achitectural standards from pre 19th century to post 19th century

2018-01-15 22:43:55 UTC  

No that's an appeal to past history

2018-01-15 22:44:03 UTC  

Explain why right now I should care

2018-01-15 22:44:23 UTC  

to get a job

2018-01-15 22:44:28 UTC  

dressing and acting in certain ways are the way that we express a sense of culture and civility

2018-01-15 22:44:39 UTC  

job/contracts/clients

2018-01-15 22:44:41 UTC  

the same as we want to build things a certain way

2018-01-15 22:44:51 UTC  

How is that not exactly to impress the herd

2018-01-15 22:44:54 UTC  

it's a way of presenting ourselves

2018-01-15 22:45:16 UTC  

I don't mind if it does impress the herd

2018-01-15 22:45:26 UTC  

that means we have a good herd

2018-01-15 22:45:43 UTC  

wait

2018-01-15 22:45:48 UTC  

because I am also impressed by it, and if they too are, then they have my respect

2018-01-15 22:45:59 UTC  

at least in that regard

2018-01-15 22:46:00 UTC  

"suits are good because they impress good people, I can tell they are good because they are impressed by suits"

2018-01-15 22:46:03 UTC  

that is circular reasoning

2018-01-15 22:46:09 UTC  

suits are good because they are good

2018-01-15 22:46:31 UTC  

I didn't say this, I'm sure the herd has bad taste in many things, and good taste in other things

2018-01-15 22:46:39 UTC  

so suits impress you because of their history of association with things you like and are impressed by

2018-01-15 22:46:49 UTC  

haha, no

2018-01-15 22:47:04 UTC  

so what if a guy is muscular, intelligent and heroic, he has a body like Arnold in his prime and he has six billion dollars and owns basically everything, and he wears only togas

2018-01-15 22:47:15 UTC  

what then

2018-01-15 22:47:20 UTC  

should he wear a suit to be more respectable?

2018-01-15 22:47:38 UTC  

they are simply a part of being civilized. We dress well, because we want represent ourselves well

2018-01-15 22:47:49 UTC  

why are suits automatically dressing "well"

2018-01-15 22:47:54 UTC  

for the same reason we build nice architecture

2018-01-15 22:47:56 UTC  

you still have not explained where your value statement comes from

2018-01-15 22:48:03 UTC  

why are suits better than jeans and a hoodie

2018-01-15 22:48:05 UTC  

we care about the way things look

2018-01-15 22:48:18 UTC  

so why is a suit better than a ripped body in a toga

2018-01-15 22:48:23 UTC  

that looks objectively better

2018-01-15 22:48:25 UTC  

not merely their functionality

2018-01-15 22:48:32 UTC  

suits usually hide flabby bodies

2018-01-15 22:48:40 UTC  

ripped body in a ripped toga is best