Message from @pd

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2018-01-23 00:58:33 UTC  

Why do you believe this to be true?

2018-01-23 00:58:50 UTC  

it makes logical sense and it's been proven to be true for my entire life

2018-01-23 00:59:05 UTC  

BUT THEN WHO CREATED GOD?

2018-01-23 00:59:18 UTC  

God is similarly a faith based belief

2018-01-23 00:59:27 UTC  

i don't see any faith in that line of logic

2018-01-23 00:59:38 UTC  

my only faith is in the gaps of my knowledge

2018-01-23 00:59:51 UTC  

How has it been proven? You don't even know what it is that has been proven

2018-01-23 01:00:01 UTC  

And what is your standard of proof?

2018-01-23 01:00:22 UTC  

Can a scientist just make something true?

2018-01-23 01:00:30 UTC  

no

2018-01-23 01:02:47 UTC  

What makes it true?

2018-01-23 01:03:51 UTC  

logic i guess

2018-01-23 01:04:11 UTC  

is logic a faith?

2018-01-23 01:04:39 UTC  

What is the logic? You are not telling me

2018-01-23 01:05:12 UTC  

i guess dogs are a good example

2018-01-23 01:05:32 UTC  

you could watch what, 10 dogs grow up in your life time?

2018-01-23 01:05:57 UTC  

imagine you're a breeder, you can literally watch the dogs change size, shape, and color before your eyes

2018-01-23 01:06:06 UTC  

depending on how the mother and father are paired

2018-01-23 01:06:42 UTC  

What does that have to do with atoms making primordial soup?

2018-01-23 01:07:02 UTC  

oh, sorry i wasn't sure what exact topic you were talking about

2018-01-23 01:07:21 UTC  

the logic that when atoms become attached to each other, they become different things

2018-01-23 01:07:39 UTC  

and that sort of reaction happening in a really intense environment could yield some really diverse things

2018-01-23 01:07:46 UTC  

i.e. the big bang

2018-01-23 01:08:43 UTC  

So how did these atoms exist?

2018-01-23 01:08:49 UTC  

i don't know

2018-01-23 01:11:02 UTC  

So you have faith?

2018-01-23 01:11:13 UTC  

no

2018-01-23 01:11:40 UTC  

You believe in things you don't know though

2018-01-23 01:12:16 UTC  

oh sure, but i'm not saying everything is known and science is the reason

2018-01-23 01:13:48 UTC  

Then how is it logical much less proven?

2018-01-23 01:14:04 UTC  

Something thst is not known cannot be proven

2018-01-23 01:14:14 UTC  

mhmm

2018-01-23 01:14:28 UTC  

i never said i know where the universe came from

2018-01-23 01:15:34 UTC  

But that is a part of rejecting religion

2018-01-23 01:15:58 UTC  

If you accept monkeyman theory then surely you have some idea of what made the world if not God

2018-01-23 01:16:11 UTC  

i dont reject religion

2018-01-23 01:16:31 UTC  

i just don't believe the bible was the beginning of man

2018-01-23 01:17:47 UTC  

What is that if not a rejection of religion?

2018-01-23 01:18:42 UTC  

Assuming you mean "bibles", not just the christian bible

2018-01-23 01:18:43 UTC  

this is of course a very bible-absolutistic pov

2018-01-23 01:19:00 UTC  

Which bible(s) did you mean?