Message from @diversity_is_racism

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2018-03-15 04:55:35 UTC  

minus the nigger hate

2018-03-15 04:55:51 UTC  

wait so elaborate on your notion of google as something emerging in response to peoples' demand for a centralized source

2018-03-15 04:56:06 UTC  

elaborate on your notion of spread vs centralized

2018-03-15 04:56:38 UTC  

I mean, on the one hand you are right, if today's normal fucking retards were given full meshnet, google would take it over in 2 weeks

2018-03-15 04:56:47 UTC  

2 weeks into alpha testing, no less

2018-03-15 04:57:06 UTC  

but on the other hand, is there a reason tech like that, that is inherently difficult to censor, couldn't help something?

2018-03-15 04:57:35 UTC  

I mean I always envision a worst case outcome of it, like google takes it all over and installs protocols on every device to block everyone they dislike

2018-03-15 04:58:00 UTC  

and all the devices triangulate the location of the machines relaying crimethought

2018-03-15 04:58:32 UTC  

"By using Google and its affiliates you agree to our Terms of Service*"

2018-03-15 04:59:02 UTC  

then everyone hits "agree" and it says "you agree to let us silently install a package blocking an ever updated list of people we don't like from your relay"

2018-03-15 04:59:21 UTC  

I mean that's an obvious evolution, decentralized so people compete by trying to re-establish exclusivity

2018-03-15 05:02:48 UTC  

THE PROBLEM IS

2018-03-15 05:02:50 UTC  

IN MY VIEW

2018-03-15 05:02:56 UTC  

THAT PEOPLE NEED SOMETHING TO IMITATE AND FOLLOW

2018-03-15 05:03:00 UTC  

SO GIVEN A DECENTRALIZED NET

2018-03-15 05:03:06 UTC  

YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF NORMIES YELLING AT EACH OTHER

2018-03-15 05:03:10 UTC  

"WELL THIS SOURCE SAYS"

2018-03-15 05:03:16 UTC  

SO THEY START TO THINK, "WE NEED A DEFINITIVE SOURCE"

2018-03-15 05:03:24 UTC  

MAINLY BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE TOLD WHAT TO THINK

2018-03-15 05:03:33 UTC  

THEY CANNOT TRUST ARGUMENT ITSELF TO REVEAL WHAT IS CLEAR

2018-03-15 05:03:39 UTC  

SO THEY WOULD INVENT WIKIPEDIA AGAIN

2018-03-15 05:03:46 UTC  

of course

2018-03-15 05:04:19 UTC  

the question is not whether the herd gonna herd, it's what option leads to a better fate for all 5 of us left who prefer to draw our own conclusions

2018-03-15 05:05:46 UTC  

so in my view it would be strategically valuable to push the mass adoption of a tech that allowed the smartest to have some wiggle room regardless of the outcome for the 98%

2018-03-15 05:06:25 UTC  

convince altright they need to oppose it because it's egalitarian, convince liberals they must do it because it expands access to the poor, is more eco friendly, yadda yadda

2018-03-15 05:06:34 UTC  

make any sense?

2018-03-15 05:08:36 UTC  

MAKES PERFECT SENSE, BUT THERE IS MORE WE MUST CONSIDER

2018-03-15 05:08:41 UTC  

WE CANNOT RUN AWAY AND HAVE OUR OWN SPACE

2018-03-15 05:08:51 UTC  

IT WILL BE OVERWHELMED OR, WORSE, MARGINALIZE ALL INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION

2018-03-15 05:09:02 UTC  

THEN 98% OF THE DISCUSSION WILL BE INANE STUFF AND THAT WILL THEN TAKE OVER

2018-03-15 05:09:10 UTC  

WHICH MEANS THAT ANYTHING WE WANT TO DISCUSS WILL BE TABOO

2018-03-15 05:09:18 UTC  

SO THERE ARE ONLY TWO OPTIONS:

2018-03-15 05:09:24 UTC  

1. A HIERARCHY WHERE THE BEST DOMINATE THE REST

2018-03-15 05:09:31 UTC  

2. A MOB RULE WHERE THE REST DOMINATE THE BEST

2018-03-15 05:09:38 UTC  

UNDER GOOGLE WE HAVE #2

2018-03-15 05:09:54 UTC  

EARLY INTERNET WAS #1 BECAUSE IT WAS EXCLUSIVE AND THUS NATURALLY HIERARCHICAL

2018-03-15 05:10:17 UTC  

WHEN EVERYONE IS ACADEMIC, MILITARY, OR HIGH END RESEARCH, CONVERSATIONS GO A LOT SMOOTHER

2018-03-15 05:11:19 UTC  

wait wait wait

2018-03-15 05:11:24 UTC  

"we cannot just have our own space"

2018-03-15 05:11:26 UTC  

is that true?

2018-03-15 05:11:31 UTC  

look at my chat in detail