Message from @Arthur Konrad

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2018-03-23 15:53:16 UTC  

COMMUNICATION DOES NOT EXIST

2018-03-23 15:53:34 UTC  

Absolutely not

2018-03-23 15:54:10 UTC  

Transcendentalism is connected to what defies the world of opposites

2018-03-23 15:54:29 UTC  

In that sense, Zen is intensely connected to going beyond the opposites

2018-03-23 15:54:44 UTC  

As such it does not belong to naturalist "realism", which is a Nietzschean domain

2018-03-23 15:56:12 UTC  

Language itself is inherently connected to the world of appearances, and hence "realization" cannot be spoken of in any definite terms, I mean this is the alphabet of transcendentalism

2018-03-23 15:56:16 UTC  

THAT IS MORE TROPE THAN PHILOSOPHY

2018-03-23 15:56:31 UTC  

IT WILL END UP AT BACKDOOR DUALISM ANYWAY

2018-03-23 15:56:37 UTC  

Cultivating non dual experience via meditation alone or meditation + koans. Predominantly

2018-03-23 15:57:04 UTC  

Yes, but the dualism and monism also belong to the same category

2018-03-23 15:57:36 UTC  

Even monism, in philosophical terms, does not represent any genuine realization in itself, it is a mere plane of philosophy

2018-03-23 15:57:58 UTC  

The Atma, the Brahman, it also has its own backdoor, which is Naturalism

2018-03-23 15:59:02 UTC  

I'm not a great fan of introducing concepts of non-dualism and dualism in general, because these are merely polemical devices that do not really help

2018-03-23 15:59:21 UTC  

Non-dualism and dualism could in fact easily be explained as one and the same

2018-03-23 15:59:35 UTC  

And then also not - the fundamental problem of philosophy

2018-03-23 16:00:31 UTC  

it's true they don't

2018-03-23 16:00:51 UTC  

But short of hitting each other with sticks what do you wanna do

2018-03-23 16:01:42 UTC  

Nothing really, but Brett is fond of pulling impossible claims, and he just produced another one, namely, that Zen is not transcendentalism

2018-03-23 16:03:07 UTC  

Take this for example "Cultivating non dual experience" this is an instruction which is purely philosophical, it demands elaboration, which leads down the rabbit hole

2018-03-23 16:03:28 UTC  

No argument there dude

2018-03-23 16:03:33 UTC  

"Cultivating concentration (of the mind)" this one is more intuitive

2018-03-23 16:04:04 UTC  

If someone asks "what is concentration of the mind" then you can apply the stick if you prefer

2018-03-23 16:04:15 UTC  

But the point is always in getting to work

2018-03-23 16:04:22 UTC  

Or shout

2018-03-23 16:04:33 UTC  

Stick is simply more Zen

2018-03-23 16:05:04 UTC  

still an action either way

2018-03-23 16:05:12 UTC  

But yeah

2018-03-23 16:05:16 UTC  

You're right

2018-03-23 16:09:23 UTC  

So is zen your deal?

2018-03-23 16:12:15 UTC  

It strikes me that Brett accepts so very few Nietzschean concepts and precepts, because he defines himself as Nietzschean (And I do not mean to belittle, I just speak what appears to me)

2018-03-23 16:13:28 UTC  

Interesting thing is that Nietzsche comprehends Buddhism as Phenomenalism which is kind of an interesting take, (and certainly more concise and measured than otherwise), but not entirely acceptable

2018-03-23 16:15:50 UTC  

It kinda works as an overgeneralized description of its methodology.

2018-03-23 16:18:52 UTC  

What grinds my gears is that categorical "imperatives" are still provided as explanations for things which well - demand explanation

2018-03-23 16:19:01 UTC  

People still explain reasoning with itself

2018-03-23 16:19:22 UTC  

Neoplatonism is often used as a backdoor, to use Brett's term, to the "same old" , for example, Catholicism

2018-03-23 16:19:39 UTC  

People still talk of "goodness" in the old way, where it is entirely subject to idiosyncrasies

2018-03-23 16:19:42 UTC  

I saw some spergy academic peer reviewed crap that missed the point in talking about Nagarjuna in concluding that he needed to defend nominalism and I'm like... did you even fucking read his shit?

2018-03-23 16:20:57 UTC  

Academic writing are good because they lead to you references which afterwards you read for yourself

2018-03-23 16:21:45 UTC  

Academic writings on most topics, and in particular Eastern Philosophy, is like a short description of a book on Amazon, you will read it to find what it is about, but then you will dismiss it and read the book for the most part

2018-03-23 16:21:58 UTC  

Wait who talks about categorical imperatives in regards to Buddhism?

2018-03-23 16:22:25 UTC  

You're right they are only good for the bibliography