they should just start developing gpus specifically for mining

Nah, it's just good old customer milking and gimmicks

true

but i also think the giant 1000 series stockpile is partly why the 2000s are so expensive

Looks like the one guy with viable leaks was right

the one Jim showed on his channel?

ye he was right

But I'm not gonna say that $700 for the RTX2080 is bad considering performance jump that's expected over the GTX 1080Ti. Aside from the fact that it does so many operations per second, it is also offering something completely new and the fact that they are offering the new tensor cores for the higher end of their gaming lineup is nothing worth complaining about.

Anyways, if AMD creates any competition which I'm doubtful about for anything other than budget cards, then Nvidia will lower prices quicker (or try dropping out old stock for lower prices; as in the pascal cards that are supposedly overstocked)

the ray tracing is just a gimmick

like PhysX

and theres nothing a 1060 cant handle, if we are talking about 1080p 60fps or even 1440p

i see no point honestly

PhysX just made decal effects, ray tracing changes the entire lighting system to render shadows, light and realistic reflections, ambient occlusion all in one package without needing those old filters

physX had nothing to do with decals

it was physics feature

now its dead, no game uses it

>shoots wall >wall explodes with lots of debris

Lots of games use basic physx but don't usually have multiple presets like other games

also ray tracing is demanding as hell, its not worth it

you can see it on the Metro Demo

compared to last year

draw distance and texture quality is visibly reduced

It IS demanding as hell, but it's clear that you haven't seen their display earlier this year

to compensate for the big FPS drop from ray tracing

They showed off 2 of their Tesla's rendering real-time ray tracing

maybe it will be relevant when second or 3rd generation ray tracing cards come out

Its for game development mainly

That's the thing though, it's a new technology. Of course right now it'll have only a few practical applications, but don't tell me that the second up coming generation isn't going to have flagship cards that will be equivalent to 2x Tesla V100's or better

I'm fine with my GTX 960 2GB so eh, i really dont care much

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The point is, if in 4 years roughly we get to have ray tracing for all consumers at a very fair price, it changes the look and feel of games entirely. There is no advancement in gaming filters more drastically detrimental than Ray Tracing will be

It mimics photons to supply realistic lighting. Between Nvidia developing it further on the hardware end, and software developers taking advantage of the RT properties and modelling with more realistic surface to reflect from, then games as a general may be able to adopt it. Don't get me wrong, I hope AMD invests in it as well to speed up the process.

each year the physics in games get shittier and shittier, i really dont care about shadows

surface level fidelity > actual details and real life feel

story telling in RPGs gets crappier too

But personally, I agree with you, I'm fine with my GTX 1070 and my 1440p 165Hz Gsync panel. I'm not even planning on getting these new cards. I myself am waiting for Nvidia to get their overhead for these new cards, then release the next series and make most of their overhead so I can then bust in and get what I'm ultimately looking for.

And you're right, games are getting shitty, but you missed one thing about surface fidelity

Lots of game developing is cheating, copy and paste. They can just use an engine or method to apply properties to a material rather than get specific on the surface's actual fidelity; in turn still producing great lighting effects

But maybe I give the devs too much credit.

great example