Message from @NormieCamo

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2018-10-04 20:37:02 UTC  

and you wont do that through democracy

2018-10-04 20:37:03 UTC  

uc regents v bakke ruled no numerical quotas

2018-10-04 20:37:12 UTC  

since both parties are loaded with traitors working for foreign interests

2018-10-04 20:37:16 UTC  

and for plutocrats

2018-10-04 20:37:24 UTC  

with motives which are contradictory in many cases to the greater good

2018-10-04 20:38:46 UTC  

I don't see it, the rich aren't the only ones in this country with influence on elected officials

2018-10-04 20:38:50 UTC  

they're still accountable to their voters

2018-10-04 20:39:34 UTC  

you have a very naive view of the world

2018-10-04 20:39:34 UTC  

The rich sway voter interest though

2018-10-04 20:39:36 UTC  

but you're only 17

2018-10-04 20:39:46 UTC  

The rich control the voters in the USA

2018-10-04 20:40:00 UTC  

The media controls the minds of the people. The rich have large interest in media corporations.

2018-10-04 20:40:02 UTC  

Since they control the media and how they perceive the elected officials as

2018-10-04 20:42:27 UTC  

The problem is white elites have no racial cohesion.

2018-10-04 20:42:39 UTC  

Imagine if the rockefeller family weren't anti white faggots.

2018-10-04 20:42:55 UTC  

Could get much of the US infrastructure to support demographic cohesion.

2018-10-04 20:43:15 UTC  

media has always been biased and controlled by either the wealthy or by political parties themselves

2018-10-04 20:43:18 UTC  

that's not really anything new

2018-10-04 20:43:29 UTC  

if anything it's become more democratic in recent years through online media

2018-10-04 20:56:58 UTC  

>freedom of association already exists

2018-10-04 20:57:02 UTC  

really?

2018-10-04 20:57:12 UTC  

I am allowed to ban black people from dining at my restaurant?

2018-10-04 20:57:28 UTC  

^

2018-10-04 20:57:35 UTC  

it's more for hiring practice though

2018-10-04 20:58:54 UTC  

@agag you're telling me that I can choose not to serve black people and the government will not come shut down my business, take my money or imprison me for doing so?

2018-10-04 20:59:04 UTC  

This is false.

2018-10-04 20:59:12 UTC  

because last I checked they do that

2018-10-04 20:59:18 UTC  

so freedom of association does not exist

2018-10-04 20:59:59 UTC  

@NormieCamo no, Congress has the exclusive right to regulate commerce and anti-discrimination laws like the Civil Rights Act fall under that

2018-10-04 21:00:37 UTC  

if congress regulates who I can associate with, I do not have freedom of association

2018-10-04 21:00:43 UTC  

when alabama tried to make the NAACP turn over membership lists the SCOTUS ruled that they didn't have to do that

2018-10-04 21:00:46 UTC  

"Immunity from state scrutiny of petitioner's membership lists is here so related to the right of petitioner's members to pursue their lawful private interests privately and to associate freely with others in doing so as to come within the protection of the Fourteenth Amendment"

2018-10-04 21:01:21 UTC  

congress has the right to regulate private businesses

2018-10-04 21:01:40 UTC  

yes it does, but that means by definition that it is not free association

2018-10-04 21:01:49 UTC  

lt has to do with what's called inter-state commerce @NormieCamo

2018-10-04 21:01:54 UTC  

you don't believe in free association if you support the 14th

2018-10-04 21:02:22 UTC  

Literally everything is inter-state commerce, and if it is inter-state commerce, it is regulated at the federal level.

2018-10-04 21:02:38 UTC  

this isn't the 14th amendment

2018-10-04 21:02:50 UTC  

when Congress tried to pass the Civil RIghts Act in the 19th century under the 14th it was overturned

2018-10-04 21:03:24 UTC  

There was one case where a guy didn't want blacks in his grocery store and the winning argument was that, since the products in the store are frmo out of state, it is inter-state commerce and therefore must be regulated by the Feds

2018-10-04 21:03:48 UTC  

right my bad, I mean the civil rights act