Message from @Immensa

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2018-10-04 04:12:49 UTC  

Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya, he has a Phd in religious studies. I believe he studied with catholics for a while as well on bibilical hermeneutics and interpretation. You might say he is a little biased given his religious background, but his religious academic background is pretty hard to dismiss. Plus the guy spends hours talking about sexual and liberal degeneracy and atheism in the modern world, so I can't just call him a liberal academic. @Immensa Despite the name he is actually a white guy of Spanish and English descent.

2018-10-04 04:12:50 UTC  

Yeah, its a way that greek functions and modifies language

2018-10-04 04:12:52 UTC  

John 8:58 KJV

2018-10-04 04:12:52 UTC  

**John 8:58 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<58> Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. ```

2018-10-04 04:12:55 UTC  

then the parable is not literal

2018-10-04 04:12:56 UTC  

@Turia Jesus did not say here is a parable

2018-10-04 04:12:58 UTC  

but the book is still literal

2018-10-04 04:13:00 UTC  

Mark 13:32 is not a parable

2018-10-04 04:13:00 UTC  

**Mark 13:32 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<32> But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father. ```

2018-10-04 04:13:03 UTC  

then he's being literal

2018-10-04 04:13:06 UTC  

@agag is Mark 13:32 a parable

2018-10-04 04:13:07 UTC  

**Mark 13:32 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<32> But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father. ```

2018-10-04 04:13:09 UTC  

you're the one calling him a liar

2018-10-04 04:13:21 UTC  

how do you know what christ knew while on earth

2018-10-04 04:13:22 UTC  

Ok so do you believe jesus is all knowing or not @Turia

2018-10-04 04:13:24 UTC  

I dont get it why not just reference the original bible smh

2018-10-04 04:13:28 UTC  

agnostic here

2018-10-04 04:13:29 UTC  

i believe what jesus taught

2018-10-04 04:13:33 UTC  

there's several versions dood

2018-10-04 04:13:33 UTC  

no mark 13 isn't a parable

2018-10-04 04:13:36 UTC  

Matthew 5:10 ESV

2018-10-04 04:13:37 UTC  

**Matthew 5:10 - English Standard Version (ESV)**

```Dust


<10> "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. ```

2018-10-04 04:13:37 UTC  

Yes or no

2018-10-04 04:13:40 UTC  

What exactly is that verse saying?

2018-10-04 04:13:42 UTC  

Is christ all knowing or not

2018-10-04 04:13:44 UTC  

mark 13:32-37 isn't a parable

2018-10-04 04:13:44 UTC  

**Mark 13:32-37 - New King James Version (NKJV)**

```Dust
No One Knows the Day or Hour

<32> "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. <33> Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when the time is. <34> It is like a man going to a far country, who left his house and gave authority to his servants, and to each his work, and commanded the doorkeeper to watch. <35> Watch therefore, for you do not know when the master of the house is coming—in the evening, at midnight, at the crowing of the rooster, or in the morning— <36> lest, coming suddenly, he find you sleeping. <37> And what I say to you, I say to all: Watch!"```

2018-10-04 04:13:45 UTC  

one of my favorites

2018-10-04 04:13:46 UTC  

>believing what jesus taught but its a revision

2018-10-04 04:13:57 UTC  

Matthew 5

2018-10-04 04:14:01 UTC  

what's a revision

2018-10-04 04:14:01 UTC  

darn

2018-10-04 04:14:08 UTC  

Turia yes or no is christ all knowing or not

2018-10-04 04:14:08 UTC  

Matthew 5:1-12

2018-10-04 04:14:09 UTC  

**Matthew 5:1-12 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust
The Beatitudes

<1> When Jesus saw the crowds, he went up the mountain; and after he sat down, his disciples came to him. <2> Then he began to speak, and taught them, saying: <3> "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. <4> "Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. <5> "Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. <6> "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. <7> "Blessed are the merciful, for they will receive mercy. <8> "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. <9> "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God. <10> "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. <11> "Blessed are you when people revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. <12> Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you. ```

2018-10-04 04:14:10 UTC  

Mark 13:32

2018-10-04 04:14:10 UTC  

**Mark 13:32 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<32> But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father. ```

2018-10-04 04:14:12 UTC  

Mark 13:32

2018-10-04 04:14:12 UTC  

**Mark 13:32 - Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)**

```Dust


<32> However, when that day and hour will come, no one knows — not the angels in heaven, not the Son, just the Father. ```

2018-10-04 04:14:15 UTC  

@Immensa have you read the OT?

2018-10-04 04:14:22 UTC  

jesus clearly states multiple times that he was a man