Message from @sad slav
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There are degrees to morality
but no, i wouldn't equate that morally
Right, so NAP is relative.
it is
@Mr. Cocksure If that's true, are you shorting Gold?
i just think religion isn't necessary for keeping morals
You'd make a killing off the market if you believed that.
@sad slav it is. Without God you can't have objective ethics.
No way around it.
religion isn't necessary but everyone believes the Bullshit that they want
when you die, you go nowhere
nowhere
@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 I don't have gold
You don't need to have gold to short it.
you can have objective ethics
a lot of atheists do
Ok how?
it's a part of the modern society
Show me how, I'd be glad to have objective ethics
Without the need of God
but then the morals integrated into the ''modern life''
Why if you refuse to believe in bullshit you have to being TAG as something?, like atheist, and Wwhy if I refuse to being robbed i have to being tag as ANCAP?
I'm nothing just free
No, God exists outside the universe and made moral values intrinsic to the universe.
Atheists have subjective moral values.
When I say objective I mean those moral values would exist independently of what any human believed.
i know
but the basis is always there
unless you are a sociopath, psychopath etc.
that's the main part integrated into living in the modern world, we learn it even without having to be religious
ok, prove me why the Holocaust would be objectively bad even if the Nazis succeeded in eliminating every enemy. (Thus every human on Earth believes the Holocaust was a good thing.)
objectively
the Holocaust wasn't objectively anything
Ok then you agree with me you can't have objective ethics without God?
i didn't say you can't
i said there had to be a religion to bring the morals in the first place
but now it is integrated into the society, not only for religious people
That is relative
Some musilms think that the terrorist attack to the world trade center it was a good thing, and they believe in god even more than christians
The example I just gave shows why. Every Nazi believes killing Jews is good, and that's integrated into society, not only for religious people.