Guys, how the means of production are created under communism?

random question

How the fabrics, and means of production are created under communism, if it is not such thing as the "state" or "investment"

please!

why.,.. there is a lot of rules in this debate chats, I already have been banned from another 5 discord servers

ancaps, and communist

just explain me that quickly

I did it

And why to this day, we still need goverment

but in real communism there is not goverment

Well... now HOW means of production should be created under communism

if it's not Goverment, Or capitalist to invest in new means of production?

But how they CREATE IT

@agag he got banned?

and other question, Why is it so hard to changue our ideology position?

every person

in North Korea there is no goverment?

@Fsypro so you think that capitalism and communism is just the same?

I have a question for the Alt-Righters if you really think that capitalism is not as bad as the media tell us, WHY when you choose a republican president the USA economic freedom just drops?

I mean go down...

Yes, if you look the economic freedom with republican presidents it just go DOWN

USA is now 20th in the economic freedom list. IT WAS 5th

is not as relevant as it used to be

you can see it in a lot of sources not just 1

https://www.heritage.org/index/

So trump and republicans are actually against capitalism?

@usa1932 You shut my mouth

THAT'S TRUE

well... so under trump, USA could become the next Singapore?

same gdp per capita

why...

USA used to be so great...

and I'm not from USA

Just think, what if for example China, have the same economic freedom as New Zeland

how that could be to the WORLD

HOW RELEVANT will be china

SO FKN RELEVANT... so much

Spanish

but if China was just as free as Australia or Hong Kong they would be the kings of almost everything right?

the kings of the Media, Music industry, movies

etc.

JUST LIKE USA ARE right now

the economic freedom of China right know is even LESS than in my country Mexico, so they are actually pretty fucked up

they are relevant now cause they are A LOT OF PEOPLE

but if you add that economic freedom + A LOT PEOPLE that would be a FKN EXPLOSION of creativity

Jeez... i wish...

but USA is still the greatest in that

so If USA goes from 18th, to 10th in just 1 year under Trump presidency, that means that your president is doing VERY well, I would vote for him again.

but it wasn't the same with other republicans

Trump made America great again in just 1 year

he achieved the impossible for me

congratulations America

Do you actually know what candidate won the presidency of mexico this year

A socialist

I hope you enforce your borders

If our economic freedom drops like it could be happen in this very years, you will recieve a lot of people from here.

then once they get to USA they will vote democrats.

Mexico is not that bad, Actually our IDH is still better than most Hispanic countries

(south america)

Still....

until now, AMLO will take the presidency in 30th december 2018

He already said the exactly SAME things that Bernie sanders said, and EVEN WORSE

well, A LOT WORSE

He said that Fidel castro was a good leader for Cuba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ygk2zRsdEo

prepare for the illegal inmigration

friends

You should tell the mexicans living in USA right now that they should back to this country, now that a socialist won the presidency they could be happy here.

"the liberal mexicans who vote for Hillary

Cuba is even more free than Venezuela now

and the venezuelans said when chavez won "We will not be like Cuba", yeah...because they WILL BE WORSE

haha

now all the mexicans here are saying "we will not be like Venezuela..."

we will see

xD, they are pretty fucked up

Pinochet saved Chile

Best Hispanic country right now

Actually the population of Chile is just a few millions, and here a lot of people listen music of Chile.

ironically anti-system groups

but they come from Chile, cause they have enough liberty to achieve that.

Is just like USA, system of a Down, Eminem and a lot of that, are "Anti-Status quo" but they only exist cause the system ALLOWS THEM to exist.

I mean, just see, Mexico is BAD for living, but venezuela is SO SHITTY that they prefer to come here to live. to traver all the fkn KM, to leave their country just to live here.

even when Mexico is not great enough. That means that venezuela goes fucked up

a lot of mexicans said "well we can't be worse than we are right now"....

AMLO thinks that mexico is in bankruptcy

but not really.

socialist actually think that

socialist here.

at least bernie sanders tries to disimulate with Americans

but here, you can say that Venezuela is a GOOD example for democracy and they will clap you

if North Korea is not communist, the URSS wasn't communist either

Cuba either, no country is communist at all, EVERY communist country NEEDS capitalist workers to maintain the bureaucracy

investigate about the merchants in venezuela, They get up at 4:00 A.M and WORK more than 15 hours per day

just to get a minimum salary

is ridicolous

goverment just took 85%

It is impossible to do a "revolution" against them, there are more people who get benefits from socialism, BY DOING NOTHING, than people who works lots more than them.

idk why almost everybody in south america, enjoys more goverment.

At least Chile is the Neo in the hispanic world,
maybe thanks to Pinochet.

LMao Zedong