Message from @Mr. Cocksure

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2018-10-04 10:15:18 UTC  

NAP is moral relativism though

2018-10-04 10:15:18 UTC  

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 gold cost less then 10 20 50 or 100 years ago and will continue to drop because with current technology with we may mind shittons of gold

2018-10-04 10:15:38 UTC  

xd

2018-10-04 10:15:42 UTC  

yup

2018-10-04 10:15:58 UTC  

If I bludgeoned a child to death, you wouldn't equate that to me drunk driving and killing someone

2018-10-04 10:16:10 UTC  

Or me killing someone who jumps in front of my car

2018-10-04 10:16:23 UTC  

that's basically him killing himself

2018-10-04 10:16:37 UTC  

Or me being distracted for a sec and running someone over

2018-10-04 10:16:41 UTC  

There are degrees to morality

2018-10-04 10:16:47 UTC  

but no, i wouldn't equate that morally

2018-10-04 10:16:53 UTC  

Right, so NAP is relative.

2018-10-04 10:17:00 UTC  

it is

2018-10-04 10:17:23 UTC  

@Mr. Cocksure If that's true, are you shorting Gold?

2018-10-04 10:17:33 UTC  

i just think religion isn't necessary for keeping morals

2018-10-04 10:17:40 UTC  

You'd make a killing off the market if you believed that.

2018-10-04 10:17:53 UTC  

@sad slav it is. Without God you can't have objective ethics.

2018-10-04 10:17:57 UTC  

No way around it.

2018-10-04 10:18:05 UTC  

religion isn't necessary but everyone believes the Bullshit that they want

2018-10-04 10:18:24 UTC  

when you die, you go nowhere

2018-10-04 10:18:32 UTC  

nowhere

2018-10-04 10:18:32 UTC  
2018-10-04 10:18:39 UTC  

You don't need to have gold to short it.

2018-10-04 10:19:06 UTC  

you can have objective ethics

2018-10-04 10:19:09 UTC  

a lot of atheists do

2018-10-04 10:19:13 UTC  

Ok how?

2018-10-04 10:19:15 UTC  

it's a part of the modern society

2018-10-04 10:19:21 UTC  

Show me how, I'd be glad to have objective ethics

2018-10-04 10:19:25 UTC  

Without the need of God

2018-10-04 10:19:49 UTC  

the religion brought those morals here, so it was necessary at the start

2018-10-04 10:20:08 UTC  

but then the morals integrated into the ''modern life''

2018-10-04 10:20:15 UTC  

Why if you refuse to believe in bullshit you have to being TAG as something?, like atheist, and Wwhy if I refuse to being robbed i have to being tag as ANCAP?

2018-10-04 10:20:23 UTC  

I'm nothing just free

2018-10-04 10:20:32 UTC  

No, God exists outside the universe and made moral values intrinsic to the universe.

2018-10-04 10:20:45 UTC  

Atheists have subjective moral values.

2018-10-04 10:21:18 UTC  

When I say objective I mean those moral values would exist independently of what any human believed.

2018-10-04 10:21:30 UTC  

i know

2018-10-04 10:21:36 UTC  

but the basis is always there

2018-10-04 10:21:52 UTC  

unless you are a sociopath, psychopath etc.

2018-10-04 10:22:15 UTC  

that's the main part integrated into living in the modern world, we learn it even without having to be religious

2018-10-04 10:22:30 UTC  

ok, prove me why the Holocaust would be objectively bad even if the Nazis succeeded in eliminating every enemy. (Thus every human on Earth believes the Holocaust was a good thing.)

2018-10-04 10:22:55 UTC  

objectively