it creates degeneracy and a society with people in massive amounts of debt

@Chilliam Ace but seriously every fucking server is so fucking shilly, at least people can speak their minds here

it is a post rationalization of usury

@RemoteBeef092 Yeah you right

and interest swindling

@Chilliam Ace 40k ftw

Bless the Discord's machine spirit!

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] "It creates degeneracy"

^

Yea.

@Fyren ^

I just said it causes that because it works.

@agag That eventually leads to massive hyperinflation/busts. Which causes massive amounts of suffering and destabilization especially because our currency is no longer properly backed by resources like Gold for example.

I can literally formally prove to you capitalism doesn't work with simple thought experiments with a concept called pareto optimality. In which we can model how someone's trade options are limited given some constraint with emerging and evolving economies.

If any system works, it'll lead to degeneracy.

Ban usury.

@Chilliam Ace @path_default What do you call a lasgun with a flashlight mounted on it?

You'll never have a lasting perfectly working system.

It's not possible.

Twin-linked

Hehehehehe

Ok

@RemoteBeef092 it doesn't work if that's the result

Enough bad jokes

@Fyren 2 flashlights?

It does.

ok kid

@path_default Twin-linked

go read some actual econ stuff

LOL

But it fails in the end, just like any previously working system.

nice

@Chilliam Ace panic of 1837 still happened despite Jackson making the only currency gold and silver coins

You literally cannot have a system that works and lasts.

@Fyren Lmao

Yes you can

i'm using that joke, sorry, i'll credit you though

the way you make a system last is you focus on the people

real things

No you can't, human morality doesn't allow it.

tangible