I personally am Grateful to have so many of you to debate and talk to

Pareto optimality converging to lower outcomes to parties without state subsidized control through lobbying as well as rate of profit decreasing and net debt increasing due to lack of cash flows growth proves you wrong

it's fundamentally retarded to set up an economy based on growth too

because rates of growth of economies always slow

@Chilliam Ace i'm in debate night right now, just got invited recently

this is called "steady state" convergence

then subsidize

It's funny, because my only point being made was that the only reason capitalism leads to degeneracy is because it works.

in formal parlance

Capitalism does not work

@path_default Sounds great, also. Big Warhammer 40k fan myself.

it creates degeneracy and a society with people in massive amounts of debt

@Chilliam Ace but seriously every fucking server is so fucking shilly, at least people can speak their minds here

it is a post rationalization of usury

@RemoteBeef092 Yeah you right

and interest swindling

@Chilliam Ace 40k ftw

Bless the Discord's machine spirit!

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] "It creates degeneracy"

^

Yea.

@Fyren ^

I just said it causes that because it works.

@agag That eventually leads to massive hyperinflation/busts. Which causes massive amounts of suffering and destabilization especially because our currency is no longer properly backed by resources like Gold for example.

I can literally formally prove to you capitalism doesn't work with simple thought experiments with a concept called pareto optimality. In which we can model how someone's trade options are limited given some constraint with emerging and evolving economies.

If any system works, it'll lead to degeneracy.

Ban usury.

@Chilliam Ace @path_default What do you call a lasgun with a flashlight mounted on it?

You'll never have a lasting perfectly working system.

It's not possible.

Twin-linked

Hehehehehe

Ok

@RemoteBeef092 it doesn't work if that's the result

Enough bad jokes

@Fyren 2 flashlights?

It does.

ok kid

@path_default Twin-linked

go read some actual econ stuff

LOL