Message from @☦ Slouch ☦

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2018-10-07 08:01:37 UTC  

Now, consciousness or Atman is related entirely to the theic identity of self actualization. You have to sort of explain the components of it all. Mind (brain), the hardware of sorts, consciousness (self awareness of existence physically), soul (essence), free will (software of sorts which is self written). I'm using software hardware as analogy btw not seriously. @hemi

Now the Logos or God has this "self actualized" identity, in which God can write the potential for potential for contingency itself. Within humanity we have our conscious will, which operates in a similar way, albeit within the constraint of being a sub logoi, a sort of miny theic identity which is constrained and is not like God, in that it is not omnipotent. However it operates in a similar war. Within the constraints of physical law, we exercise will in an *acausal* manner, effectively writing an imprint of sorts onto the physical.

2018-10-07 08:01:44 UTC  

@hemi are you white

2018-10-07 08:01:52 UTC  

Is it objectively true that there isn't objective truth

2018-10-07 08:01:58 UTC  

thats a weak answe

2018-10-07 08:02:06 UTC  

How is it weak

2018-10-07 08:02:20 UTC  

from hemi

2018-10-07 08:02:22 UTC  

I'm just memeing but now I'm curious

2018-10-07 08:02:39 UTC  

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] very interesting

2018-10-07 08:02:41 UTC  

@hemi So basically consciousness is explained by this process, our free will is the component of sub logoi identity and consciousness is the energies of the Logos.

2018-10-07 08:02:43 UTC  

i understand

2018-10-07 08:02:54 UTC  

You cannot say there isn't such a thing as objective truth since you are asserting that is an oobjective truth

2018-10-07 08:03:10 UTC  

This is why determinism wont explain consciousness, and empirical methods wont ultimately get at it.

2018-10-07 08:03:25 UTC  

@☦ Slouch ☦ idk what you ar eon, but im certain you belive trump is a timewizard from the third reich

2018-10-07 08:03:26 UTC  

its a division i dont often distinguish

2018-10-07 08:03:28 UTC  

Because will itself cannot have a deterministic root, necessarily. If it did, then you'd be subject to infinite regression

2018-10-07 08:03:33 UTC  

and then causation itself would make no sense

2018-10-07 08:03:46 UTC  

because why would there be a set of events occurring infinitely in a chain if there was no beginning?

2018-10-07 08:03:49 UTC  

If Trump was a time wizard from the third Reich that would be cool as fuck

2018-10-07 08:03:59 UTC  

I should write a novel about that

2018-10-07 08:04:02 UTC  

there is no conceptual epistemology that can even *exist* if there's an infinite regression

2018-10-07 08:04:03 UTC  

I'm stealing ths t

2018-10-07 08:04:08 UTC  

since knowledge depends on limitation

2018-10-07 08:04:13 UTC  

quantity

2018-10-07 08:04:22 UTC  

lemme rack up the list here

2018-10-07 08:04:33 UTC  

don't you love

2018-10-07 08:04:45 UTC  

- Doenst beleive in :

2018-10-07 08:04:50 UTC  

you have compelling ideas man

2018-10-07 08:05:01 UTC  

how some leftists claim that race isn't real and yet sticks to the "wypipo evil" narrative

2018-10-07 08:05:01 UTC  

lil late for me hhaaa

2018-10-07 08:05:07 UTC  

really takes your noggin for a joggin

2018-10-07 08:05:13 UTC  

Apparently you don't believe in spelling any words right

2018-10-07 08:05:17 UTC  

not my ideas strictly, it's Vedic theology expressed in philosophical language essentially

2018-10-07 08:05:24 UTC  

Holy shit not you again

2018-10-07 08:05:30 UTC  

although the Aristotelian part I think is my own unique take

2018-10-07 08:05:32 UTC  

in so far as I know

2018-10-07 08:05:36 UTC  

This socalist loser is back

2018-10-07 08:05:38 UTC  

someone else might have applied it that way too

2018-10-07 08:05:44 UTC  

good stuff xD. i wanna rehatch consciousness when im more awake. down? @Thule-Gesellschaft [☩]

2018-10-07 08:05:56 UTC  

yh hes socialist you got a problem their jew

2018-10-07 08:05:59 UTC  

ya sure