They were not pragmatists either
Hitler fundamentally rejects pragmatism
people are people regardless of ideology, I'm sure Lenin thought that Stalin was an "idealistic Marxist" that "doesn't reject global revolution."
even with completely different standards you will end up with successors who go back on their previous behavior
ok, but if you take that argument to its logical conclusion, in the plutocratic shadow elite version the "people who are people" who become tyrants through the weaknesses of capitalist democracies are harder to then overthrow
Power corrupts the very minute it’s given
which means your system in which corruption is inevitable anyways because of this maxim leads to even greater danger than mine
the checks and balances built into the system exist to prevent that
since unlike your system we might have one tyrant
the problem is that with Führerprinzip you don't have them
whereas you may have 200 billionaire tyrants
checks and balances have failed
unless you're arguing that America is not a plutocracy
I don't think we're a plutocracy
Can we check and balance niggers
ok then explain why super pacs are allowed?
citizens united
essentially infinite lobbying enacted
super pacs are regulated
not really
what are super pacs?
not as much as they should be but they are
the regulations for who donates are pretty shitty
foreigners can donate too btw
as long as they do it through a US corporate entity
look I don't want to go into a tangent proving America is a plutocracy, it is but that would be a waste of time
super pacs prove it outright imo
but there's other points to that
yeah american divisions of foreign companies can contribute to pacs
Anyways, your argument that human nature cannot handle power intrinsically that undermines your position.
Even if the US was not a plutocracy (which it is) it would still in your mind deteriorate into one
because of the corruption you stated that people have when dealing with power
so your presupposition leads to negating your view that capitalist democracy is a good system
no, because the entire system is designed around that belief
(going to refer to it as cap dem rep for short now)
the whole system of government is designed to check ambition with ambition and check power with power
yes, and my point is, because you diversify your tyrants into 2000, by your own logic now you have 2000 psychopaths to contend with
as opposed to 1 in an authoritarian system
their power is limited to prevent them from becoming tyrants
and it's not just 1 guy in an authoritarian system
their power is not limited, because capitalist societies have all degraded into plutocracies
