Message from @agag

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2018-10-12 06:53:55 UTC  

since unlike your system we might have one tyrant

2018-10-12 06:54:01 UTC  

the problem is that with Führerprinzip you don't have them

2018-10-12 06:54:04 UTC  

whereas you may have 200 billionaire tyrants

2018-10-12 06:54:21 UTC  

checks and balances have failed

2018-10-12 06:54:27 UTC  

unless you're arguing that America is not a plutocracy

2018-10-12 06:54:52 UTC  

I don't think we're a plutocracy

2018-10-12 06:54:55 UTC  

Can we check and balance niggers

2018-10-12 06:55:31 UTC  

ok then explain why super pacs are allowed?

2018-10-12 06:56:21 UTC  

citizens united

2018-10-12 06:56:23 UTC  

essentially infinite lobbying enacted

2018-10-12 06:56:25 UTC  

super pacs are regulated

2018-10-12 06:56:30 UTC  

not really

2018-10-12 06:56:30 UTC  

what are super pacs?

2018-10-12 06:56:34 UTC  

not as much as they should be but they are

2018-10-12 06:56:36 UTC  

the regulations for who donates are pretty shitty

2018-10-12 06:56:42 UTC  

foreigners can donate too btw

2018-10-12 06:56:48 UTC  

as long as they do it through a US corporate entity

2018-10-12 06:57:19 UTC  

look I don't want to go into a tangent proving America is a plutocracy, it is but that would be a waste of time

2018-10-12 06:57:30 UTC  

super pacs prove it outright imo

2018-10-12 06:57:38 UTC  

but there's other points to that

2018-10-12 06:58:09 UTC  

yeah american divisions of foreign companies can contribute to pacs

2018-10-12 06:58:23 UTC  

Anyways, your argument that human nature cannot handle power intrinsically that undermines your position.

2018-10-12 06:58:39 UTC  

Even if the US was not a plutocracy (which it is) it would still in your mind deteriorate into one

2018-10-12 06:58:50 UTC  

because of the corruption you stated that people have when dealing with power

2018-10-12 06:59:02 UTC  

so your presupposition leads to negating your view that capitalist democracy is a good system

2018-10-12 06:59:16 UTC  

no, because the entire system is designed around that belief

2018-10-12 06:59:20 UTC  

(going to refer to it as cap dem rep for short now)

2018-10-12 06:59:47 UTC  

the whole system of government is designed to check ambition with ambition and check power with power

2018-10-12 06:59:48 UTC  

yes, and my point is, because you diversify your tyrants into 2000, by your own logic now you have 2000 psychopaths to contend with

2018-10-12 06:59:53 UTC  

as opposed to 1 in an authoritarian system

2018-10-12 07:00:10 UTC  

their power is limited to prevent them from becoming tyrants

2018-10-12 07:00:23 UTC  

and it's not just 1 guy in an authoritarian system

2018-10-12 07:00:27 UTC  

their power is not limited, because capitalist societies have all degraded into plutocracies

2018-10-12 07:00:30 UTC  

I had to finish a paper, why are the rest of you faggots up so late

2018-10-12 07:00:32 UTC  

you kill hitler and donitz takes over

2018-10-12 07:00:34 UTC  

their power is only limited by their amount of money

2018-10-12 07:01:01 UTC  

authoritarian leaders still have officials under them

2018-10-12 07:01:01 UTC  

@NormieCamo was supposed to go to sleep at 12:30 but schooling niggas in the aspect of authoritarianism n shiet

2018-10-12 07:01:05 UTC  

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2018-10-12 07:01:14 UTC  

boyz in the hood reference

2018-10-12 07:01:20 UTC  

in case zoomer brains explode