Message from @Quasi

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2018-10-16 13:14:05 UTC  

@Noxar While I'm glad you repented, that doesn't answer my question. How would you know it's bad for *everyone?* Some have a problem with food (fatties) yet most of us can eat food without getting addicted to it.

2018-10-16 13:15:14 UTC  

Categorically clear data, spanning extensive periods of time?

2018-10-16 13:16:30 UTC  

@Quasi you think religion prevents you from being fat?

2018-10-16 13:16:57 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/496515828372602890/501745368766349312/SmartSelect_20181016-071535_Instagram.jpg

2018-10-16 13:17:11 UTC  

@Noxar I think religion provides a philosophical foundation for traditionalism. Can you answer my question?

2018-10-16 13:20:59 UTC  

@Quasi right I agree. I know that my view on religion is unacceptable to you as a religious person, but:
I believe religion is entirely man made, it's a tool for achieving orderly and functional society. The adherents have to follow certain rules and lifestyle otherwise they will be punished by god. In modern times we've replaced religion with strict legalism, the enforcer of said rules is no longer god but the state.
As such, I view religion as absolutely necessary for the creation of civilization and appreciate how it shaped the western world (christianity)

2018-10-16 13:22:01 UTC  

Every great culture that ever existed had it's own religion for a reason

2018-10-16 13:22:32 UTC  

@Mord just asked him

2018-10-16 13:22:41 UTC  

And, unfortunately, the civilizations triumph will inevitably cause it's own downfall

2018-10-16 13:22:56 UTC  

it's a cycle of life, cultures rise and fall

2018-10-16 13:23:13 UTC  

it's our duty to try to stop the decline but the end is inevitable sooner or later

2018-10-16 13:23:38 UTC  

its foolish to think some religion and/or culture will exist forever

2018-10-16 13:24:33 UTC  

My teacher says the US is already at a state of Corporatism/Corporatocracy

2018-10-16 13:25:13 UTC  

@PainSeeker5 that's true.

2018-10-16 13:25:40 UTC  

Now you might ask why do I not accept religion. It's simple, I was brought up as an atheist, religion is not what I fundamentally base my worldview on, to become religious would be just pretending. @Quasi

2018-10-16 13:25:44 UTC  

corporations already influence the government greatly.

2018-10-16 13:25:56 UTC  

Some people here want that/like that

2018-10-16 13:26:12 UTC  

Is mord in the US or EU I can’t remember

2018-10-16 13:26:15 UTC  

@PainSeeker5 only the bourgeois would be fans of such policies.

2018-10-16 13:26:21 UTC  

@Noxar This is a really materialist and ignorant view of religion. Instead of addressing it philosophically, like questioning it's *philosophy* (yes, Christianity has a full philosophy including metaphysics, epistemology and ethics) you question it's telos without understanding it well.

` In modern times we've replaced religion with strict legalism, the enforcer of said rules is no longer god but the state.`
You cannot simply equate man-made law and what is claimed to be Divine law. Christianity can also serve as a foundation for *resistance* to a status quo, not just the keeping of. Nor did you answer how do you philosophically justify traditionalism as an agnostic.

` It's simple, I was brought up as an atheist, religion is not what I fundamentally base my worldview on, to become religious would be just pretending. @Quasi`
I'll ask again, then how do you justify your worldview?

2018-10-16 13:26:27 UTC  

sorry I meant to say "why do I not become religous" I dont mind religious people

2018-10-16 13:26:33 UTC  

@PainSeeker5 Corporatism in the Fascists sense is not Crony Capitalism.

2018-10-16 13:26:35 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ tell that to anyone with Third Position role here

2018-10-16 13:26:43 UTC  

Which is what corporatocracy is

2018-10-16 13:26:49 UTC  

no decent working class intellectual wants corporatocracy.

2018-10-16 13:26:58 UTC  

Nor does any Third Positionist

2018-10-16 13:27:01 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ weren't you banned?

2018-10-16 13:27:05 UTC  

@Quasi oh I didn’t tell him about fascism

2018-10-16 13:27:08 UTC  
2018-10-16 13:27:14 UTC  

I only told him about the corporation side

2018-10-16 13:27:17 UTC  

Whoops

2018-10-16 13:27:21 UTC  

I’ll explain in a bit

2018-10-16 13:27:23 UTC  

@Leiro レイロ didn't you get banned from TRS?

2018-10-16 13:27:30 UTC  

nope

2018-10-16 13:27:33 UTC  

when?

2018-10-16 13:27:42 UTC  

Like 2 days ago?

2018-10-16 13:27:44 UTC  

this is my first rime here.

2018-10-16 13:27:49 UTC  

time*

2018-10-16 13:28:03 UTC  

this guy is sneaky

2018-10-16 13:28:16 UTC  

You were kicked last sunday!