Message from @WizardLizardInABlizzard
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literally every example of a socialist revolution happens in the third world and not industralized nations
Capitalism and free market is the best fertilizer for innovation
@WizardLizardInABlizzard but you're only arguing about the pragmatic effects of punishing dissent *in one way*, not justifying free speech.
`Fine, totalitarianism prevents natural development in all aspects; tech, culture, economy, everything`
Not necessarily, although *corporatism* does sacrifice efficiency for stability which is great.
`>real communism never existed
I wonder fucking why`
It did, although rather pathetically most of the time
Also probably the main reason we're not all killing each other
@WizardLizardInABlizzard innovation under a capitalist system is only driven for more profit, while under socialism is different
`Capitalism and free market is the best fertilizer for innovation`
No, it's the best encouragement for appealing to base desires
And what drives profit?
Greed
No, demand
Learn economy
@WizardLizardInABlizzard the greed for more. Greed and the profit motive still exists under socialism
You need an actor with the greed to satisfy the demand
except that the profits driven by greed would be benefited for and by the people, not the bourgeois
Yes.
An innovator
@WizardLizardInABlizzard innovation would be better under a socialist system.
Who let the commi in?
But we got off topic
who's the commie?
We were talking about free speech
You didn't justify it, but only switched to advocating a different punishment
@WizardLizardInABlizzard I'm a libertarian/democratic socialist, not a Marxist-Leninist or other sects of marxism
Of course the guy named after light in Hebrew is shilling for socialism
>libertarian socialist
now that's faggy
come on dude
hahaha libertarian socialist hahhaha
>libertarian
>socialist
Chose one
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libertarianism was founded by a anarchist sorry
@WizardLizardInABlizzard you *can* pick both which just makes it worse
How
socialism isnt anarchism you wet wipe hahahaha
no
How are libertarian values anywhere close to socialist values?
libertarian is the term used for that US libertarian party
Social libertarianism
@Punished Norm the term libertarian was used to refer to the left until it was hijacked.
where the fella was giving a presentation with his shirt off