@Hamburger Guy You can choose not to do it because of the low success rate, but it's still something you can try. I agree, generally useless these days

@Fading cognitive behavioral therapy is more effective

@Hamburger Guy Do you really think you should use CBT on people who have a different opinion to you?

@Fading science is not up for debate but experimentation

@Hamburger Guy Interpretation of results is absolutely up for debate

That should be followed up with more experimentation, of course

And we did

And the earth is round

You know that feeling when you know you are wrong but half of you refuses to accept that?

save the bees!

That doesn't mean debate should be verboeten even if one side is demonstrating sheer idiocy

@Hamburger Guy I agree, Earth is round and flat

@Fading debate is for convincing audiences

@Human Sheeple if it's flat can you walk off it

Aristotle never meant it to be like this

@Hamburger Guy There isn't a rule that says that has to be the case, even if it is the most sensible form of debate

FLAT EARTH CONVERGENCE WALK: https://imgur.com/a/U0XUoJ2

@Fading are we arguing over arguing

cute ur like an old married couple

@Hamburger Guy So? Just because it's not a good idea generally doesn't mean you _can't_ debate and it's ridiculous to say you should use cognitive behavioural therapy on people who disagree with you, regardless of whether or not their opinions fly in the face of common sense

@megᵏᶻ How do you plan on walking passed this?

say it is flat, say there is an edge, how do you plan on walking passed this?

@Human Sheeple a plane

Jet fuel freezes

Batteries explode

It gets too cold

@Human Sheeple What temperature is it there? Because there are certainly ways to keep planes flying in subzero temps

@Fading I know it sounds condescending

record lows of minus 92 degrees C

I have to read more into it

Maybe it is a dumb ides

Amundsen and Scott never made it to 90 deg S

I just know traditional debate is flawful

82 deg S is the farthes south anybody's ever been

@Hamburger Guy Nothing is perfect in the world of humans and rhetoric. And I mean, just as I said you're free to have the opinion that people with stupid ideas should have CBT performed on them, I just disagree

@Fading it's not just opinions

Its facts and evidence

@Hamburger Guy Actually it is opinion, there's nothing that says people can't have opinions that are stupid. What I mean to say is I don't believe people should be forced to undergo CBT just because they deny facts and evidence, however galling it might be

As someone who has worked in academia and "does science" for a living, I wish people weren't so foolish, I really do. But I don't deny their right to think what they think

CLIMBING HARNESS: https://imgur.com/a/b0WYLH3 https://imgur.com/uROdUZw https://imgur.com/BsfPxhG