Message from @Human Sheeple
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yeah that seems like something you'd have to commission
I'm not quite sure why flat earthers deny gravity. Gravity doesn't really change whether or not the earth is flat.
@Fading Sheeple got it wrong because adding balloons of the same mass and volume does not change the density
@Bannebie it depends on what their explanations for the other planets and things are
@Hamburger Guy That makes even less sense than I thought but okay
@Hamburger Guy You don't understand negative relative density
@Bannebie My point is the source of denial of gravity can be dependent on the explanations for planets that flat earthers provide, which gravity might prove an issue with
@Fading LOGICAL FALLACY: SHIFTING THE BURDEN OF PROOF: https://imgur.com/tSgXe5B
@Fading Burden of proof is on you to PROVE gravity
Then they should find a different explanation for planets, because gravity is simply an effect we observe
If I have a ton of balloons of the same density individually adding more balloons will not change the density
Do the math
You mean balloons filled with WATER?
right you won't take off no
The point is that we have no idea what planets are, so using gravity to explain anything about planets is senseless.
How would Helium be different
10 fold lower density than air
@Bannebie So just to be aware of what we're talking about here, you don't believe we know whether or not planets are large masses in space?
The light you see in the sky weighs NOTHING
it's light
Yes, I don't believe anyone knows what exactly planets are since there's no way we can directly observe their size or weight.
@Bannebie You can measure angular size
Yeah uh you can view their size with telescopes lol
Observable testable repeatable, that's science
Yes, but that's just the *apparent* size.
@Fading Where's the testable and repeatable part?
Oh whoopsie you forgot that bit didn't you
@Human Sheeple of what?
SCIENCE
Testable and repeatable part of what?
For the *actual* size you'd need the distance, which can't be measured
If I can SEE a streetlamp 10km away, am I allowed to say it's a burning ball of fusion gas? Or if I climbed that lamp post and disassembled it and tested what it's made of, would I find a bunch of LEDs?
Well we use planetary orbits combined with angular size to calculate a planet's true size
@Human Sheeple We're talking about different things, I'm just saying we have _some_ information of what a planet is whereas Bannebie appears to be claiming we have _none_
When you disregard experiment and repeatability, you are pushing PSEUDOSCIENCE
I mean that's assuming planets have something like an orbit
So what's this then?