Message from @Towelie
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they have no visa because the gov is taking their long ass shit time to recognize the situation
Give them a break
and my country is supposed to be a pioneer in term of right of asylum
You have to recognize that they didn't even have to take him in * WRONG
I mean, they are illegals not because they don't have the right to be here, but because the gov is taking over 2 years to deliver them a paper to says that they are refugees
that's the thing, we have to, it's in our constitution
France has a long tradition of offering asylum to foreign refugees, and the right of asylum has constitutional value under French law. French asylum law is heavily based on international and European law, but is largely codified in the Code de l’entrée et du séjour des étrangers et du droit d’asile (CESEDA, Code of Entry and Residence of Foreigners and of the Right of Asylum).
He's getting everything he needs to keep breathing right?
but that's not what he wants
he don't want to be a burden, he didn't move from his country to be an assisted hobo
Then take away his food
sorry kek
Well he should be thankful
yeah I know you're kidding, but the situations is really complex, and again, it's just because the administration is taking too long to do their jobs
they are taking their sweet time to do something they have to do, because it's not important for them.
that again, cause another conflict
the thing is, he his thankful, he realize that we have a lot to offer for his family and children
especially in term of educations
I'm sure the government has alot on their plate already
but he don't want all this for free and would rather prefer to work hard to obtain this instead of being a burden for society
well the administration handling the CESEDA here has nothing else to do, litterally.
they are lacking effectives, but then again, there are people that are willing to work in here and can't.
because it's a bureaucratic mess
I still don't see getting a free ride for a while until the government files your papers is a problem
it's a problem when you understand that you're a freeloader and you're despised because of that.
I like that he wants to contribute though
Well anyways I've heard that jobs are scarce
and at the same time, there are jobs that needs more effectives
in many fields, agriculture, medical (especially caregiver, we recruits spanish, etc)
and in administrations too
it's a complex mess
and those people didn't deserved to be treated like that
they would much rather wait a couple of month and start to work or at least do some voluntering to contribute back
not be parked in ghettos, projects, etc like beasts and be sidelined like they are actually
I realize the few I met can't represent a majority or the whole refugees, but still it's a sentiments that was shared more than once
I get it
They are refugees though
Its not supposed to be extravagant
Slow systems usually come with shit like that
yeah, they fleed the horror of wars and I'm sure that the situation they live right now is much, much better. But from my perspective, it's not the way we should treat human beings