Message from @Towelie

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2017-01-29 21:11:12 UTC  

@Towelie it's more pseudo 60 because I use SVP, which interpolates extra frames

2017-01-29 21:11:34 UTC  

oh, sucks

2017-01-29 21:13:02 UTC  

it's actually pretty good

2017-01-29 21:14:26 UTC  

well depends of the anime

2017-01-29 21:14:48 UTC  

the few example I saw with that smoothvideo project weren't really smooth

2017-01-29 21:15:32 UTC  

most of the anime are using 24fps which is fine in itself

2017-01-29 21:15:54 UTC  

but to reduce the cost some, to not say a lot of companies, double the same images so it's really just 12fps with 2 frames before the next movement

2017-01-29 21:17:33 UTC  

it works really well for anime with a lot (if not completely) of 3D cgi

2017-01-29 21:18:24 UTC  

not really the kind of anime I like then

2017-01-29 21:18:55 UTC  

few exceptions for masamune shirow's works like appleseed movies

2017-01-29 21:19:08 UTC  

I don't mind it

2017-01-29 21:19:15 UTC  

I do like Polygon Pictures

2017-01-29 21:19:28 UTC  

Although their Ajin cgi was occasionally pretty poor

2017-01-29 21:20:04 UTC  

oh, it's not just about the CGI but yeah

2017-01-29 21:20:20 UTC  

that's a really good example of 2 frames animations I was talking about earlier

2017-01-29 21:20:32 UTC  

it reduce the render time and thus, the cost of the anime

2017-01-29 21:20:58 UTC  

hence the pretty poor FPS of those animes

2017-01-29 21:21:18 UTC  

the animation is sluggish at best on those anime

2017-01-29 21:21:36 UTC  

yeah they sometimes cut down character animation to 8fps

2017-01-29 21:21:46 UTC  

in s2 it mostly disappeared

2017-01-29 21:21:47 UTC  

lol >.> damn

2017-01-29 21:21:55 UTC  

that's 3 frames animations

2017-01-29 21:21:58 UTC  

but it was the stiffest thing I had seen in a while

2017-01-29 21:22:35 UTC  

3times the same image, then a new one 3 times, etc

2017-01-29 21:22:50 UTC  

that's really cheap

2017-01-29 21:23:39 UTC  

it works for close to static scenes and it should be limited to that imho

2017-01-29 21:25:53 UTC  

if they can pull it off with 3 times less job, I guess we gonna see 6fps animations soon...

2017-01-29 21:27:25 UTC  

No pls

2017-01-29 21:28:05 UTC  

I was thinking of rewatching both seasons of sidonia and didn't want to suffer through s1 poor frame rate

2017-01-29 21:28:11 UTC  

So started using svp

2017-01-29 21:30:43 UTC  

yeah well, okay for those kind of cheap stuff

2017-01-29 21:31:02 UTC  

and for cheap shounen and the likes

2017-01-29 21:31:31 UTC  

but SVP for a decent grade anime / movie / live action stuff is making it worse

2017-01-29 21:32:30 UTC  

funny thing is "SVP" is a really common acronym in french for a formal way of saying "please" (S'il vous plait)

2017-01-29 21:35:23 UTC  

there's a lot of 60fps youtube videos using svp and it shows a lot of jolt and blur on decently animated stuff

2017-01-29 21:36:14 UTC  

It doesn't work too well with traditionally animated stuff because that's already intended to look smooth

2017-01-29 21:36:26 UTC  

I think it helps more with situations where it's choppy

2017-01-29 21:36:35 UTC  

yeah I guess

2017-01-29 21:36:46 UTC  

but there's really no need for 60fps anyway

2017-01-29 21:39:44 UTC  

I would guess that you could double or triple the framerates with interpolation depending of the original content and reduce it afterward to 24fps

2017-01-29 21:40:56 UTC  

like runs it at 3 times speed and slow it down by 3 with interpolation or something to keep it smooth