Message from @dunce

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2017-01-14 20:54:53 UTC  

There's nothing that helps define it other than Han or whoever saying that it's full of scum

2017-01-14 20:55:28 UTC  

But it's clearly not an important scene for rei, that isn't the point and it's precisely the disjunction with the rest of the film that probably led it to not be included.

2017-01-14 20:55:46 UTC  

This shows off the scum, and also shows off the every-man-for-himself lifestyle in the bar as nobody helps the guy, instead having another alien act annoyed by their fight

2017-01-14 20:57:25 UTC  

Personally I do think it's important, as it shows weakness that is otherwise completely lacking. It also shows off her quick to fight behavior that could really be a problem for her, shown as she has the gun ripped out of her hand so fast

2017-01-14 20:57:43 UTC  

Without a scene like this, she looks invincible

2017-01-14 21:00:27 UTC  

return of the assman

2017-01-14 21:00:48 UTC  

To clarify

2017-01-14 21:00:51 UTC  

But they already had enough establishing scenes of the bar, there isn't any reason to focus on the scuminess of background characters unless it's important in some way, which in this case it isn't. They aren't doing shady deals there, they don't need to spend screen time establishing atmosphere that isn't important. Also if this was the only scene where rei showed some type of weakness physically then that would be stupid, because it is so minor, it would just be erratic. Also the whole esteblishment of reis character seems to focus on how adept she is in various ways but emotionally she seems stunted due as of yet unkown circumstances, if they made her seem weak in other ways it would remove focus comparatively.

2017-01-14 21:00:57 UTC  

I don't mean keep this literal scene in

2017-01-14 21:01:07 UTC  

But something that works on the same level, but better

2017-01-14 21:01:29 UTC  

What establishing scenes were there of the bar?

2017-01-14 21:01:33 UTC  

What gave it life

2017-01-14 21:01:41 UTC  

the guys reporting to the first order

2017-01-14 21:01:44 UTC  

the big fat cunt

2017-01-14 21:01:53 UTC  

kirk?

2017-01-14 21:01:57 UTC  

heh

2017-01-14 21:01:59 UTC  

also there where a few shots of clearly shady characters

2017-01-14 21:02:04 UTC  

chaos?

2017-01-14 21:02:34 UTC  

I'm so fuckin tired

2017-01-14 21:02:49 UTC  

that is literally all the focus you need, I'm not saying this movie is great and has no room for improvement. But this scene doesn't add anything that would improve it

2017-01-14 21:02:49 UTC  

who's that

2017-01-14 21:03:01 UTC  

"Also the whole esteblishment of reis character seems to focus on how adept she is in various ways but emotionally she seems stunted due as of yet unkown circumstances, if they made her seem weak in other ways it would remove focus comparatively."

2017-01-14 21:03:13 UTC  

But that never shows off as a serious flaw

2017-01-14 21:03:32 UTC  

Never is she in any danger because of those issues

2017-01-14 21:04:08 UTC  

She gets mental when she sees a fucking lightsaber, if that isn't weakness then what is it

2017-01-14 21:04:35 UTC  

But clearly we don't have context yet. They are setting up a trilogy.

2017-01-14 21:04:42 UTC  

the fact she was able to fight off a (fairly) trained member of the First order in lighsaber combat is BS

2017-01-14 21:04:52 UTC  

Yeah, she got really mental when she saw that saber in the final fight and carved Kylo like a pumpkin

2017-01-14 21:05:29 UTC  

that is called character development, I'm not saying this narrative is good.

2017-01-14 21:05:34 UTC  

Oh you mean the Mary Sue from SW7 ?

2017-01-14 21:05:41 UTC  

^

2017-01-14 21:05:43 UTC  

Rei from Evangelion right?

2017-01-14 21:05:43 UTC  

i don't think it is particularly good either

2017-01-14 21:05:49 UTC  

Finn > Rey

2017-01-14 21:06:22 UTC  

I keep calling her Rei because I forget the real spelling and because she's as lifeless and dull as Rei from Eva

2017-01-14 21:06:33 UTC  

Rey.

2017-01-14 21:06:41 UTC  

Ummm Eva Rei is not lifeless

2017-01-14 21:06:46 UTC  

I never really cared much for Rey either

2017-01-14 21:06:48 UTC  

She's full of life, Shinji's mum's life

2017-01-14 21:06:55 UTC  

heh

2017-01-14 21:07:23 UTC  

eva Rei is my favourite character in the series, I like kuudere characters