Which pretty much caused the death of a lot of Ukrainians following the famine

@Deleted User Did you look it up? Google will give you the same stat

So, the harvest of sorrow was really a centralized urbanization plan

@Yusa it’s very possible you’re using a source that made the same mistake

They are often confused

But the idea of “x people died in the kulaks” is like saying “x people died in the countryside”

Not really it was a plan to stop a famine that happened every 5-7 years

@Boo uuuuh no.

Which was successful

Just factually inaccurate

@Deleted User Can you link me to your source? I googled it and all the sources I found agree with my stat

uhhhhh yes

Factually accurate

Am I arguing with a tankie and a Nazi here

I can get the stats real quick if you doubt me

It's not that hard to get

@Yusa you’re missing my point. Your argument doesn’t follow from your stat

@Boo yeah, I’m sure there wasn’t famine after everyone died. I’m telling you the policy goal.

Everyone? So like everyone suddenly just gone poof in Ukraine?

@Deleted User Did you read my whole post?

No, Stalin hauled away all the grain and equipment as part of his urbanization plan

And millions died

Not “gone poof”

They starved to death

Again wrong but really if you doubt me I can get you the stats and documents

Read a Robert Conquests’ Harvest of Sorrow

Sure, I’d love to see population stats for Ukraine

Do you have those?

Or just grain yields?

Yes

All of them

This is widely known information

Like this is psycho tankie shit here

Ok, let’s see them

Apparently not if you're asking me for those stats

Right hold up

I am currently asking you for these stats

Show me that the population of Ukraine did not drop.

I actually agree with you in you argument with Boo.

Lol

Here, educate yourself.