Message from @fuck12moredeadcops
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brexit means brexit
simple as
That’s not even coherent “Brexit means Brexit” is rhetorical nonsense.
The reason it has taken so long is because when the referendum occurred, they failed to define what Brexit actually means in terms of the UK’s policy towards the rest of the EU after leaving, if they’d give places like Scotland and Northern Ireland opportunities to remain within the EU, if it means the UK will still be part of the EEA, if they’re going to seek a trade agreement similar to the CEFTA with countries they most heavily trade with, if they’re going to stay members of the EU Customs Union, etc.
Because the referendum was so fucking broad in its wording, and the average person, *especially smooth-brained right-wing Brexiters*, doesn’t have a solid conception of what Brexit is past their leaving the EU, it has yet to move forward because Parliment can’t agree on what to request from the EU in a Brexit Deal
And furthermore there’s no guarantee that the EU will agree to whatever terms they do eventually produce if they manage to produce terms before having another referendum and backing out
LIKE actual morons think a Hard Brexit is something that they have to do if they can’t make a deal, but nobody who understands Geopolitics actually wants a Hard Brexit. Even Boris Johnson, the ostensible crusader for Brexit is going to ask for an extension to avoid a Hard Brexit because it would do nothing but harm British capital
Just leave all about politics/ democrat and republicans do this in the states
So they’re trapped in limbo till parliament defines what they actually want out of a Brexit and send something to Brussels which the EU can modify, but they haven’t even gotten that far yet
Democrats and Republicans, as stupid as they are, have never left a question of geopolitical stability to a referendum.
It was a stupid idea, and the Brexiteers had no conception of what would happen if they won, and now people are floundering because all of the questions I raised above in the first paragraph need to come up
Because as much as people will posture that they ought to just do a Hard-Brexit, they’re not actually that dumb.
*Countries who leave the EU are economically harmed*
*Be Mediterranean countries still in the EU*
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What type of reductive ass reasoning are you using? @Deleted User
The EU hasn't helped many of the countries inside of it in the slightest
German bailouts result in them demanding the money back in the end
Germany practically runs the EU
they own it
What does German influence over the EU have to do with Brexit?
And the alternative of no bailout would’ve been the collapse of states like Greece
As much as you might disagree with the economic ideology of the EU regarding failing member states, it was absolutely necessary to maintain the legitimacy of the Greek state as an economic entity
It's globalist economies *Get on board or fail*
When that is not at all the case
Any pattern of asking for bailouts is a result of poor statesmanship by Greek parliament, not the EU saving them from complete economic collapse
I never said Germany had to do with brexit
you sayd Britain has no chance without the EU
Then why did you even say that, this is a Brexit channel
Lmao
They do have a chance
and I said tell that to Mediterranean states
British Capital, and as a result British politicians, don’t want a Hard Brexit
This chat is as much and argument about the EU than as Brexit
stop straw manning
When did I misrepresent you’re argument?
Do you know what straw man means
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By the British capital I assume you mean all the immigrants
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