no one was arguing against them being authoritarian

all of us are in agreement there, I was making the case that the ussr and the nazi's are far more similar than people tend to believe, including the ussr being fascistic for all intents and purposes.

And that the politicals label of both factions are pointless as ultimately they're just authoritarian dictatorships at their core.

The labels are not pointless

Because of how they get there and the rhetoric they use

Crucially, fascism only arises out of the right wing, communism only out of the left wing

The fascists and communists fighting each other in the Spanish civil war would be surprised to hear they’re the same.

And we've already covered how the ussr meets virtually all of the criteria for fascism, and how the Nazi's were not at all strictly on the right.

Oh, Nazis were all strictly on the right

The rhetoric used by the USSR and Nazis were totally different

Again- it’s absolutely true that the USSR racially targeted

But the rhetoric was around ideological purging

While the Nazi rhetoric, even while doing political purges, couched it in the rhetoric of racial cleansing

While fascism and communism may resemble each other

One evolves out of the right wing, and the other out of the left wing

I never made the case that they were synonymous

For proof of this, you need look no further than seeing that one never turns into the other, and fascism evolves only from conservatism, and communism only from liberalism

This is widely known and an undeniable fact

Except that fascism by definition is not at all strictly conservative while communism is strictly left leaning

Your effort to obfuscate that basic definitional fact about fascism is highly suspect

Fascism is strictly conservative

Always

Give one example when it is not

I can say the same about you denying the legitimacy of the actual *dictionary* definition of fascism from Merriam-Webster. I have already demonstrated how the Nazi's made left wing moves and had left leaning parts of their agenda, and this is an undeniable fact. Also, a modern example of left wing fascism would be Antifa, as they spread their message through violence and want a more powerful government. An example of a country that is left wing and fascist would be Venezuela's United Socialist Party, which is not communistic and is absolutely fascistic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Socialist_Party_of_Venezuela

They are communist.

Fascism is a right wing movement

It is its definition.

They literally are not communistic

fascism (usually uncountable, plural fascisms)

Any right-wing, authoritarian, nationalist ideology characterized by centralized, totalitarian governance, strong regimentation of the economy and of society, and repression of criticism or opposition.

They are a left wing populist/socialist nation

Sure, if you call every socialist party in the world fascist, then fascism is a left wing movement

Ok?

Your point?

They aren’t fascist

Becaaaahse

fascism (usually uncountable, plural fascisms)

Any right-wing, authoritarian, nationalist ideology characterized by centralized, totalitarian governance, strong regimentation of the economy and of society, and repression of criticism or opposition.

That is the definition of fascism

Fascist is, by definition, right wing

That is a simple fact

I see you keep spamming the wikipedia article definition instead of from an *actual dictionary* .

That is the actual dictionary