Message from @Platinum Spark
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If you cherry pick, you can find definitions that are vague enough that they don’t explicitly say fascism is a right wing ideology.
But you’ll notice absolutely none of them say it’s left wing or somehow orthogonal to the political spectrum
It is tautological to say that fascism is right wing. In any serious academic discussion it would be taken as 100% granted.
That you are trying to litigate this issue is highly suspect. It ranges from ignorant at absolute best, to intellectually dishonest or, at worst, fascist sympathizing
If you sincerely believe that fascism is somehow not a right wing ideology, I recommend you study 20th century Europe- I can recommend Paxton’s Anatomy of Fascism, Beevor’s Spanish Civil War
From the Swastika to the Cross of Lorraine as well
You cant deny the fact that fascism is security.
Thats what it revolves around, doesnt it?
This, cobra, is the kind of rhetoric you’re enabling
I'm sorry but you are incorrect in stating all dictionary definitions state that fascism is right wing, I have already given you various examples of this. Your definition is also entirely contradictory to what fascism is, and the idea that my argument that fascism is not solely right wing somehow means that I support fascism is *entirely* intellectually dishonest.
Do you hate fascism?
Again, that is not what I said
I think both of us hate fascism, we a re disagreeing on what it is exactly
I said that you have to cherry pick to find a definition that does not have it as right wing, or espousing right wing ideas
You have to do the same to find ones that *do* state it is right wing.
My definition in no way contradicts any of the other definitions, and I challenge thou to find an example
Honestly, if you google search it’s at the top of the list
I already have multiple times.
And I searched the OED and it was there too
So I’m surprised you were able to find any that did not have that
Either educating you or rejecting your intellectual dishonesty-
You literally do the same
Fascism, by definition and tautologically, is a right wing ideology
I would disagree against both of you because i don't see fascism providing any negative purposes if its solely to protect the state with any means necessary.
You cannot accuse me of doing this because your argument is fallacious itself.
If you still disagree, please read any of the books I’ve provided
You are sorely lacking in education if you believe fascism is not a right wing ideology
What if restricting or curbing the privileges of the banker and corporate elite protects the state 🤔
And you actually view the various links I have used
My argument is clearly supported by the dictionary definition
Every single one of your links supports my establish fact
No they do not
Please debate seriously.
Stop strawmanning my argument
All notorious fascist governments have been left wing according to historical evidence.
I have provided you with the information, at a certain point you just have to accept fact. Your continued intransigence absolutely makes suspect your own political ideology.
They had leftist views.
I am not strawmanning your ideology. The premise that fascism is anything but right wing is absurd on its face
There cobra, you have support in golden.
Hope you’re satisfied with the company you keep.