Message from @Platinum Spark

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2019-09-13 04:18:21 UTC  

If you cherry pick, you can find definitions that are vague enough that they don’t explicitly say fascism is a right wing ideology.

2019-09-13 04:18:43 UTC  

But you’ll notice absolutely none of them say it’s left wing or somehow orthogonal to the political spectrum

2019-09-13 04:19:23 UTC  

It is tautological to say that fascism is right wing. In any serious academic discussion it would be taken as 100% granted.

2019-09-13 04:20:33 UTC  

That you are trying to litigate this issue is highly suspect. It ranges from ignorant at absolute best, to intellectually dishonest or, at worst, fascist sympathizing

2019-09-13 04:24:24 UTC  

If you sincerely believe that fascism is somehow not a right wing ideology, I recommend you study 20th century Europe- I can recommend Paxton’s Anatomy of Fascism, Beevor’s Spanish Civil War

2019-09-13 04:24:36 UTC  

From the Swastika to the Cross of Lorraine as well

2019-09-13 04:25:26 UTC  

You cant deny the fact that fascism is security.

2019-09-13 04:25:53 UTC  

Thats what it revolves around, doesnt it?

2019-09-13 04:26:12 UTC  

This, cobra, is the kind of rhetoric you’re enabling

2019-09-13 04:26:55 UTC  

I'm sorry but you are incorrect in stating all dictionary definitions state that fascism is right wing, I have already given you various examples of this. Your definition is also entirely contradictory to what fascism is, and the idea that my argument that fascism is not solely right wing somehow means that I support fascism is *entirely* intellectually dishonest.

2019-09-13 04:27:13 UTC  

Do you hate fascism?

2019-09-13 04:27:17 UTC  

Again, that is not what I said

2019-09-13 04:27:42 UTC  

I think both of us hate fascism, we a re disagreeing on what it is exactly

2019-09-13 04:27:43 UTC  

I said that you have to cherry pick to find a definition that does not have it as right wing, or espousing right wing ideas

2019-09-13 04:28:12 UTC  

You have to do the same to find ones that *do* state it is right wing.

2019-09-13 04:28:17 UTC  

My definition in no way contradicts any of the other definitions, and I challenge thou to find an example

2019-09-13 04:28:26 UTC  

Honestly, if you google search it’s at the top of the list

2019-09-13 04:28:35 UTC  

I already have multiple times.

2019-09-13 04:28:35 UTC  

And I searched the OED and it was there too

2019-09-13 04:28:44 UTC  

So I’m surprised you were able to find any that did not have that

2019-09-13 04:28:54 UTC  

But again, I don’t know where you got this idea, so let me be clear

2019-09-13 04:29:11 UTC  

Either educating you or rejecting your intellectual dishonesty-

2019-09-13 04:29:26 UTC  

You literally do the same

2019-09-13 04:29:28 UTC  

Fascism, by definition and tautologically, is a right wing ideology

2019-09-13 04:29:31 UTC  

I would disagree against both of you because i don't see fascism providing any negative purposes if its solely to protect the state with any means necessary.

2019-09-13 04:30:13 UTC  

You cannot accuse me of doing this because your argument is fallacious itself.

2019-09-13 04:30:14 UTC  

If you still disagree, please read any of the books I’ve provided

2019-09-13 04:30:26 UTC  

You are sorely lacking in education if you believe fascism is not a right wing ideology

2019-09-13 04:30:27 UTC  

What if restricting or curbing the privileges of the banker and corporate elite protects the state 🤔

2019-09-13 04:30:32 UTC  

And you actually view the various links I have used

2019-09-13 04:30:39 UTC  

My argument is clearly supported by the dictionary definition

2019-09-13 04:30:49 UTC  

Every single one of your links supports my establish fact

2019-09-13 04:30:55 UTC  

No they do not

2019-09-13 04:30:56 UTC  

Please debate seriously.

2019-09-13 04:31:21 UTC  

Stop strawmanning my argument

2019-09-13 04:31:26 UTC  

All notorious fascist governments have been left wing according to historical evidence.

2019-09-13 04:31:26 UTC  

I have provided you with the information, at a certain point you just have to accept fact. Your continued intransigence absolutely makes suspect your own political ideology.

2019-09-13 04:31:32 UTC  

They had leftist views.

2019-09-13 04:31:56 UTC  

I am not strawmanning your ideology. The premise that fascism is anything but right wing is absurd on its face

2019-09-13 04:32:06 UTC  

There cobra, you have support in golden.

2019-09-13 04:32:14 UTC  

Hope you’re satisfied with the company you keep.