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I just provided you with evidence
Are you refuting that odin’s ring is made of gold?
Or would you rather I also pull out a totally irrelevant poem that doesn’t prove your point
You still haven’t answered his question it’s like your purposely ignoring it
Now why would someone do that if they thought it was true, unless you know it’s a lie
You say I haven’t answered your question, what question have I not answered?
Again you're making a fallacy from a VERY dumb view of the myths. First you are taking a material approach to what is a symbol for rebirth. The ring's main attribute was that it was able to multiply itself, not that it was made of gold.
First of all, wrong ring
Secondly, it still debunks your claim that gold was seen as unclean by the Norse pagans
And if you are talking about material wealth generally
There is absolutely no evidence of that, and you have provided none
Norse and low German warlords regularly had hoards of silver and gold
They were sought after and considered holy, far from unclean
Gold = Material Wealth you dumbass
The Norse pagan afterlife is also depicted as one of great material wealth
Yes honey, that’s why I’m saying try to keep up
I provided a great couple of stanzas rejecting material wealth why are you not addressing those instead of cherrypicking?
You did not
The stanzas you presented in no way show any rejection of material wealth as unclean
Can you scroll or is your mouse broken?
I read the entire poem
Furthermore, even assuming that it did (which it does not)
HE DID NOT???? BITCH I SAT HERE AND WATCHED HIM TYPE IT 😂 AND SEND IT
The historical record entirely dismisses that absurd idea
AND if you want my own cherry picked mythological point
Odin’s ring is gold, all the Norse gods measure power in material wealth
The entire saga of the dwarves crafting things in competition is about the glory of material wealth
Hávámal:
10:
A better burden can no man bear
on the way than his mother wit;
'tis the refuge of the poor, and richer it seems
than wealth in a world untried.
58.
He must rise betimes who fain of another
or life or wealth would win;
scarce falls the prey to sleeping wolves,
or to slumberers victory in strife.
59.
He must rise betimes who hath few to serve him,
and see to his work himself;
who sleeps at morning is hindered much,
to the keen is wealth half-won.
77.
Full-stocked folds had the Fatling's sons,
who bear now a beggar's staff:
brief is wealth, as the winking of an eye,
most faithless ever of friends.
78.
If haply a fool should find for himself
wealth or a woman's love,
pride waxes in him but wisdom never
and onward he fares in his folly.
wsan't there a trinket that made endless coins
How does this not say material possession bad
Okay so in the end you do acknowledge that you were wrong in saying I linked no poems, because now you're saying that I did
10:
A better burden can no man bear
on the way than his mother wit;
'tis the refuge of the poor, and richer it seems
than wealth in a world untried.
58.
He must rise betimes who fain of another
or life or wealth would win;
scarce falls the prey to sleeping wolves,
or to slumberers victory in strife.
59.
He must rise betimes who hath few to serve him,
and see to his work himself;
who sleeps at morning is hindered much,
to the keen is wealth half-won.
77.
Full-stocked folds had the Fatling's sons,
who bear now a beggar's staff:
brief is wealth, as the winking of an eye,
most faithless ever of friends.
78.
If haply a fool should find for himself
wealth or a woman's love,
pride waxes in him but wisdom never
and onward he fares in his folly.
That is a poem you dumb fuck
Ok, let’s go stanza by stanza
Where do you believe
That says that wealth is unclean?
The entire point here is that there are good things other than material wealth
10: Tis the refuge of the poor to bear his mother's wit. And it is better than all the wealth in the world
You quite literally said “you did not” when he said “I provided a great couple of stanzas”
Are you following? good
Ok, and what do you feel that says?
Let’s see if you can follow