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2019-12-06 19:45:22 UTC  

I just provided you with evidence

2019-12-06 19:45:32 UTC  

Are you refuting that odin’s ring is made of gold?

2019-12-06 19:45:50 UTC  

Or would you rather I also pull out a totally irrelevant poem that doesn’t prove your point

2019-12-06 19:46:01 UTC  

You still haven’t answered his question it’s like your purposely ignoring it

Now why would someone do that if they thought it was true, unless you know it’s a lie

2019-12-06 19:46:33 UTC  

You say I haven’t answered your question, what question have I not answered?

2019-12-06 19:46:57 UTC  

Again you're making a fallacy from a VERY dumb view of the myths. First you are taking a material approach to what is a symbol for rebirth. The ring's main attribute was that it was able to multiply itself, not that it was made of gold.

2019-12-06 19:47:24 UTC  

First of all, wrong ring

2019-12-06 19:47:40 UTC  

Secondly, it still debunks your claim that gold was seen as unclean by the Norse pagans

2019-12-06 19:47:49 UTC  

And if you are talking about material wealth generally

2019-12-06 19:48:00 UTC  

There is absolutely no evidence of that, and you have provided none

2019-12-06 19:48:18 UTC  

Norse and low German warlords regularly had hoards of silver and gold

2019-12-06 19:48:36 UTC  

They were sought after and considered holy, far from unclean

2019-12-06 19:49:07 UTC  

Gold = Material Wealth you dumbass

2019-12-06 19:49:11 UTC  

The Norse pagan afterlife is also depicted as one of great material wealth

2019-12-06 19:49:18 UTC  

Yes honey, that’s why I’m saying try to keep up

2019-12-06 19:49:57 UTC  

I provided a great couple of stanzas rejecting material wealth why are you not addressing those instead of cherrypicking?

2019-12-06 19:50:05 UTC  

You did not

2019-12-06 19:50:19 UTC  

The stanzas you presented in no way show any rejection of material wealth as unclean

2019-12-06 19:50:22 UTC  

Can you scroll or is your mouse broken?

2019-12-06 19:50:54 UTC  

I read the entire poem

2019-12-06 19:51:08 UTC  

In what way do you feel those stanzas suggest material wealth was considered unclean

2019-12-06 19:51:31 UTC  

Furthermore, even assuming that it did (which it does not)

2019-12-06 19:51:41 UTC  

HE DID NOT???? BITCH I SAT HERE AND WATCHED HIM TYPE IT 😂 AND SEND IT

2019-12-06 19:51:46 UTC  

The historical record entirely dismisses that absurd idea

2019-12-06 19:52:07 UTC  

AND if you want my own cherry picked mythological point

2019-12-06 19:52:24 UTC  

Odin’s ring is gold, all the Norse gods measure power in material wealth

2019-12-06 19:52:41 UTC  

The entire saga of the dwarves crafting things in competition is about the glory of material wealth

2019-12-06 19:52:44 UTC  

Hávámal:
10:
A better burden can no man bear
on the way than his mother wit;
'tis the refuge of the poor, and richer it seems
than wealth in a world untried.

58.
He must rise betimes who fain of another
or life or wealth would win;
scarce falls the prey to sleeping wolves,
or to slumberers victory in strife.

59.
He must rise betimes who hath few to serve him,
and see to his work himself;
who sleeps at morning is hindered much,
to the keen is wealth half-won.

77.
Full-stocked folds had the Fatling's sons,
who bear now a beggar's staff:
brief is wealth, as the winking of an eye,
most faithless ever of friends.

78.
If haply a fool should find for himself
wealth or a woman's love,
pride waxes in him but wisdom never
and onward he fares in his folly.

2019-12-06 19:52:46 UTC  

wsan't there a trinket that made endless coins

2019-12-06 19:52:53 UTC  

How does this not say material possession bad

2019-12-06 19:53:01 UTC  

Okay so in the end you do acknowledge that you were wrong in saying I linked no poems, because now you're saying that I did

10:
A better burden can no man bear
on the way than his mother wit;
'tis the refuge of the poor, and richer it seems
than wealth in a world untried.

58.
He must rise betimes who fain of another
or life or wealth would win;
scarce falls the prey to sleeping wolves,
or to slumberers victory in strife.

59.
He must rise betimes who hath few to serve him,
and see to his work himself;
who sleeps at morning is hindered much,
to the keen is wealth half-won.

77.
Full-stocked folds had the Fatling's sons,
who bear now a beggar's staff:
brief is wealth, as the winking of an eye,
most faithless ever of friends.

78.
If haply a fool should find for himself
wealth or a woman's love,
pride waxes in him but wisdom never
and onward he fares in his folly.

2019-12-06 19:53:30 UTC  

That is a poem you dumb fuck

2019-12-06 19:53:38 UTC  

Ok, let’s go stanza by stanza

2019-12-06 19:53:42 UTC  

Where do you believe

2019-12-06 19:53:47 UTC  

That says that wealth is unclean?

2019-12-06 19:54:01 UTC  

The entire point here is that there are good things other than material wealth

2019-12-06 19:54:02 UTC  

10: Tis the refuge of the poor to bear his mother's wit. And it is better than all the wealth in the world

2019-12-06 19:54:05 UTC  

You quite literally said “you did not” when he said “I provided a great couple of stanzas”

2019-12-06 19:54:21 UTC  

Are you following? good

2019-12-06 19:54:25 UTC  

Ok, and what do you feel that says?

2019-12-06 19:54:42 UTC  

Let’s see if you can follow