thats what I have heard

so...

idk

its not natural

I'm gay and I could potentially see myself liking girls if I like wanted to. It may not be natural but why does that harm you?

I could be in the military and do just as good as anyone else.

Wasn't Alan Turing gay?

Well only 3% of the population are genetically originated to be attracted to only the same sex. While the rest of queer population are just degen freaks who want to get their assholes pozed.

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Facts

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@Deleted User anal sex isnt linked that much to homosexuality tho

So the Milo Yiannopolous thing?

Anyways this is way off topic. The point is that gay people on the military isn't a problem and you're making uneducated and bigoted statements in a debate on politics. You quite frankly don't understand the nature of statistics and analytics and you seem like a 12 year old brainwashed yeehaw. Can we move on?

@McBacoon anal sex isn’t linked to homosexuality? This lad🤣🤣 I understand what you’re trying to say, but you failed into Infur what I was trying to say from my joke. @shimmy regardless of 3% not having a choice in the matter. It is still a genetic divergence, and while it may occur through a natural process, a mutation is that a bastardisation of the process. Making it in effect natural.

```While the rest of queer population are just degen freaks who want to get their assholes pozed.```

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Well, sure. Whether it's natural or not doesn't really matter, that's all I was trying to say. But tbh, I don't get a boner from vagina and whether you label that as a mental disorder or not doesn't matter. The only matter here is that them being in the military does not "corrupt" it.

He was saying that the 3% ARE gay, while the others just wanna try anal lmao

Let gays kill terrorists!

That's worse for the terrorists

The issue is that these yeehaws don't care about terrorists, they want to claim false epidemics.

@shimmy I don’t call it a mental disorder, it’s a bio-psychiatric malfunction, the same kind of genetic mutation transgender people suffer from. I don’t believe in giving a group of people access to a job that’s prone to extreme levels of mental stress, with that community already predisposed to high rates of mental illness and suicide, higher than their straight counter parts.

Therapy and/or mental testing. If they don't meet mental requirements to be in the military then don't let them, it's simple.

I wish I could remove the + from my role

Also, the reason why homosexuals suffer from higher rates of mental illness and suicide isn’t because of bullying. Why? Explain why homosexuals in the most pro-gay country in the world, Amsterdam. Suffer from remarkably similar rates of mental illness and suicide than their US counter parts.

The people who don't want to do anything about the suicide rate aren't gay people. They're rich straight white people who are acting as if they care

Patronising people are the worst

It's definitely not because of bullying. I could care less of other people's opinions, but I can't speak for everyone else. If I were to kill myself, with a counterpart being my homosexuality, I'd have to blame it on how differently I'm treated. Relationships when you're gay aren't fun. But maybe it's because of religious beliefs. People believe they aren't true followers of their God because it goes against the word.

I can't pinpoint why the suicide rate is higher tho

That’s pre-deployment though, most problems will occur during and after deployment. Unless you want them to be tested by psychiatrists on the field. In that case, why? The amount of resources put into programs similar to that would drain more resources than the increased soldier supply would affect results on the battle field.

If the government doesn't care about the mental aftermaths of their non-trans military members, why worry about the ones who are trans. They want to be equal anyways

But Trump isn't trying to ban trans from the military because "they might kill themselves"

Equality is a lie. The government should care, but their straight counter parts are less dependent on medical resources. It would be a waste of money just to peruse your ideological falsehood.

They might. There’s nothing linguistically wrong with that. And they will do so at a higher rate. I’m not pro-Trump FYI.

I got that. You seem very centrist. But you're taking things out of proportion. How many people are even in the military, better yet, how many are trans? Very few. Even so, the military gets an absurd amount of funding, it wouldn't hurt.

The issue is that, to people on the outside, this seems like an attack on their rights and an anti-progressive thing to do

Millions and millions for both. I want to defund the military, because I’m an isolationist. I don’t want to allocate resources just so some freaks can play soldier. And it hurts me and every single tax payer, the higher cost of a transgender soldier could go into social welfare programs and grants for couples to buy houses. I’m not progressive and I don’t really care about the rights of transgender people.

Well since I’m a third positionist, I’m technically a radical centrist.

I'm not against banning transgender people from the military completely, then. But Mr.Blue said something about banning gays? Yeah fuck that

Well they both suffer from a predisposition of mental illness and suicide. So I don’t see why I’d permit them into a military I want to decrease spending in.