I don't know. I'm not an expert on the origins on europe.

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 4!

I obviously think that what happened is absolutely terrible, but there is a lot more to hundreds of years of on and off indian wars with countless tribes than "Evil whitey killed all dem natives"

I'm not suggesting that at all. Don't put words in my mouth.

I'm well aware the native americans were extremely violent to the english immigrants.

But you entirely are, by implying that the north american continent is somehow not a homeland for generations of white settlers

For example, I can trace my family here all the way back to the early 1800s, where they immigrated from german and poland. However I don't consider either of those places my homeland

It doesn't matter how long white people have been here if the natives were here first. White people are immigrants to this part of America.

So nothing at all matters besides who physically stepped foot there first?

@Deleted User There have been Indo-European people from Siberia on the Northern European continent for 23,000 years and another group migrated 12,000 years ago. European people’s have a blood a soil connection to Northern America, just like the Native Americans who arrived on the continent in a similar fashion.

Furthering what Wrath send, most of these Siberian native indo-europeans were killed out when the second group migrated

If the native americans were here first, and it was their land by reason of living there and occupying the country...
Then white people showing up later makes us immigrants.
We have no reason to "take america back" from growing minority populations when it wasn't ours to begin with.

I never said we needed to "take back America," all I said was that I don't believe it's racist to believe those who founded and built a country should not be a minority in their country

And once again, if all that matters is who stepped foot here first, then I guess we owe the Siberians our continent

They founded a country on land that wasn't theirs. They infiltrated and imperialized america through war.

Would you like to respond to the fact that native americans were not the first people in north america or are we just going to brush past that fact?

Yeah we probably do then lmfao. If they were here first.
Obviously thats unrealistic but its asinine to say that America is a white country when we showed up from Europe originally.

European DNA, like the DNA of Native Americans (Asian DNA), immigrated to the continent. So it wasn’t “theirs” either.

The land belongs to who wants to dominate it.

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bingo

I would, frankly, call you stupid if you believe we should return our country to the Siberians because a handful arrived here 23,000 years ago.

The land belongs to who wants to dominate it.

Maybe someone will come dominate your home and now thats just how it is.

Its their home now.

And since The state of America was built by European pioneers it should therefore belong to Europeans as well as the native Americans.

I mean, many have tried, but we still stand

I’m not a weak libertarian so that won’t be happening anytime soon

I have no idea where I lie on the political scale

If someone shoes up with a tank and imperializes your home/property tf you gonna do about it? Its dominated.

Its theirs now.

As per your suggestion.

You can contest territory you utter sperg

I mean, yea, it pretty much would be. My moral arguments wouldn't do much against a several ton military vehicle

So native americans did or didn't contest america?

They did, but the whites shot them to pieces and here we are crying about it today

To be fair 90% were wiped out by disease before we placed a cabin anywhere

Interesting, so we must murder them all to uncontest the land?

And make it ours officially?

When did I say that?

Fetty, when all you can do is knock down an argument you created, then are you really even debating us?