Message from @Shockwave

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2019-09-27 20:12:58 UTC  

Who does?

2019-09-27 20:13:07 UTC  

The house alone

2019-09-27 20:13:21 UTC  

Then if they impeach it goes to the senate

2019-09-27 20:13:46 UTC  

he is only impeached if the senate deems him guilty after a senate trial

2019-09-27 20:13:57 UTC  

They hold a trial, presided over by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, but their decision is not subject to judicial review

2019-09-27 20:14:06 UTC  

No

2019-09-27 20:14:11 UTC  

Your terms are wrong

2019-09-27 20:14:16 UTC  

na

2019-09-27 20:14:20 UTC  

we've been over this before

2019-09-27 20:14:20 UTC  

They vote to remove him from office

2019-09-27 20:14:37 UTC  

They neither “impeach” him or declare him “guilty”

2019-09-27 20:15:08 UTC  

They strip him of his office, and with it his sovereign immunity

2019-09-27 20:15:22 UTC  

impeachment is the charge that removes him from office, and he has to be found guilty of it

2019-09-27 20:15:24 UTC  

What? I thought an impeachment did not necessarily mean removal from office?

2019-09-27 20:15:28 UTC  

Then he can be charged normally by th DOJ

2019-09-27 20:15:34 UTC  

Gotcha.

2019-09-27 20:15:36 UTC  

Which won't happen

2019-09-27 20:15:53 UTC  

Want to be clear here, because pelth has terms mixed up

2019-09-27 20:16:01 UTC  

Didn't Trump put Barr in the DOJ?

2019-09-27 20:16:02 UTC  

Impeachment is solely done by house vote

2019-09-27 20:16:12 UTC  

I should research how that all works

2019-09-27 20:16:18 UTC  

the charge of impeachment

2019-09-27 20:16:28 UTC  

He could be charged at any time after that within the statutes of limitations

2019-09-27 20:16:29 UTC  

not the conviction of impeachment

2019-09-27 20:16:32 UTC  

No but really, didn't Trump put Barr as AG?

2019-09-27 20:16:34 UTC  

it's one process

2019-09-27 20:16:37 UTC  

yes he did

2019-09-27 20:16:39 UTC  

Isn't that a conflict of interest?

2019-09-27 20:16:44 UTC  

no

2019-09-27 20:16:52 UTC  

Yes

2019-09-27 20:17:01 UTC  

But, what if Barr is in Trump's pocket.

2019-09-27 20:17:05 UTC  

No evidence of such, but still.

2019-09-27 20:17:10 UTC  

2 things

2019-09-27 20:17:15 UTC  

Barr could refuse himself

2019-09-27 20:17:38 UTC  

(President) Pence might replace him anyway

2019-09-27 20:17:58 UTC  

And after the next election, the new DOJ could decide to charge Trump even if the old one didn’t

2019-09-27 20:18:06 UTC  

Ah gotcha.

2019-09-27 20:18:18 UTC  

there won't be a new doj

2019-09-27 20:18:21 UTC  

he is winning

2019-09-27 20:19:18 UTC  

Again, this could even be in 2025

2019-09-27 20:19:55 UTC  

But this whole scenario is we’re talking about if he were to be removed from office by the senate, which seems fairly unlikely right now