Human nature and communism is incompatible

Simple as

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What is human nature?

How much well I'll be compensated more for my labor? Who gets to decide? Who would I work for?

@3v6en8 All of that depends on the particular socialist formation

You’d know what human nature was if you went out and talked to other humans

I do that daily

Clearly it’s going in one ear and out the other

Idealism without illusions

What about it is incompatible with a stateless, moneyless, profitless society?

I seeing a lot of mushrooms and clouds rn

I'm staunchly opposed to idealism philosophically

What do you agree with?

Historical Materialism, A dialectical theory of knowledge, empiricism

shit like that

What does that mean?

Specifically historical materialism

Like the Marxist theory of history

"The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles."

ofc\

And it’s untrue

Classes struggling in order to gain power and such

He was a brainlet

What about now?

What should we do now?

Name a single state which has existed without socioeconomic classes? @Pelth

and furthermore name one where these classes are not in conflict with one another

The struggles between classes weren’t the primary issue. People knew their places in society

@3v6en8 Engage in the destruction of bourgeois class society, and build a world where human need is the primary driving force

Where is the innovation in that society?

@Pelth That's why slaves societies never had slave revolts, feudal societies never had peasant revolts, mercantilist society never had bourgeois revolution, and capitalist society has never had proletarian revolution

It’s tribe vs tribe and every tribe has classes within it.

People just know their place

@3v6en8 Innovation according to human need

As opposed to innovation for the sake of personal gain

So people won't ask for more because we're all born moral, ethical and altruistic?

We only need a room, water/food, and clothing to work?

No, people won't be in headspaces where they're trained to ignore ethics and human suffering

@fuck12moredeadcops is this nonsense what they teach you in college?

I didn't go to college