Within socialism money still exist

as would consumer goods

I was talking about communism ideas not socalism

abolishing business sounds very communistic

When you've achieved communism we're post scarcity and people would engage in labor either because it was necessary or because they wanted to

Post scarcity?

When does that happen?

Like we no longer have resource scarcity

Communism - gimme muh free stuff *drools in retardation*

In the future when our means to produce are greater than our means to consume, we're already post-scarcity in things like food and housing

We just don't distribute them according to need

When will that happen?

So there's still a homeless population and a starving strata of the population

As our productive output develops and we invent new ways of doing old task

300 years ago the idea that there'd be more than enough food and housing for all people was absurd, now it is reality. 300 years from now things like transportation and fuel will exist the same way

Especially with automation, our productive capacity is increasingly surpassing our ability to consume

hence post-scarcity

So automation = post-scacity?

Not necessarily

But it will help us get there

Just when we reach the inevitable point where we reliable produce more than we consume, we'll have achieved post-scarcity \

Do you believe that we have a finite amount of resources?

Yes

Have we achieved post-scarcity yet?

This discussion should go into economics

It should

I think; I lost my cool, I just wanted to talk about deep state

What was the "original" topic?

"Deep state"

fair

How it went into marxism is beyond my mind

What do you have to say about the deep state

I don't know anything about the subject, so I'll remain quiet

idk, something about conspiriousy theorist on manipulating stuff

Lol ok

probably

then it was class struggle

honestly it was about kurds n such

alright then

Marxism is a fun topic also, so I can add my 2 cents in whenever that's getting debated

@3v6en8 yeah like I told you we're post-scarcity in terms of food and housing