Message from @Darman
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What if that’s a calculated response
Like “if we behave in X terrible fashion people will retaliate in a way we can predict”
Idk might be
So I think that definition is basically accurate, but lacks the authoritarian aspect and how it arises
I’ll quote the OED here- admittedly dictionaries are not the end all be all, but AI think this is a good starting place
An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.
Now I think what you said about trump is a non sequitur
Trump has very little respect for the constitution, he has repeatedly seen checks and balances as unnecessary fetters on executive power
He recently said “I control the hatch act”
Which is as close as any American President has gotten to *l’etat c’est moi*
But historically, fascism has arisen only from conservative movements, basically as a populist entry to conservatism that then swallows its parent
The evolution basically being: institutions are the sacrosanct protectors of society > institutional influence needs to be expanded to combat societal deviance > even the institutions are corrupted, they need to be torn down
Trump’s railing against the deep state is very much in line with that last rhetorical step, and is reminiscent of Hitler and Mussolini’s attacks on (and ultimately dismantling of) the apolitical government institutions, military institutions and the press
Fascism was not a conservative movement
You fucking retard
supremacy of one national or ethnic group: blacks
a contempt for democracy: Trump won, get over it
an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader: Obama lol
a strong demagogic approach: clinton and bush family demagogs
In the first Fascist council in Italy, there were no conservatives present
Sigh honey
Did you even read what I wrote
an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader: obedience to MSM, Soros, Clinton Family etc etc
You said “historical Fascism has only risen from conservative movements”
When that is a lie
I wonder how many people she's blocked cause she can't have a conversation while remaining civil
hella sophistication right thar
Imagine blocking people
In Italy, fascism was largely enabled by the church
It was sort of the cudgel of the conservative movement
And?
So that is literally my point
she's pretending she wasn't responding to my messages earlier so she can refuse to respond to any counter-arguments to what she says lol
It was an outcropping or conservatism
That then destroyed conservatism
How is Fascism the weapon of the church?
Like did you just stop reading when you hit that point?
Sorry you agreed with my premise until you heard my conclusion?
Not all types of Fascism embraced the church
So you don’t know the history of fascism in Italy
Did I say all types of fascism embraced the church?
You didn’t know what the first fascist council was
So you don’t know