Message from @Vlad

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2019-11-13 23:08:46 UTC  

"russian style"

2019-11-13 23:08:46 UTC  

```“The communications strategies pioneered by the Russians have migrated to become strategies that the far right, [and] white supremacists, use in this country, and strategies that politicians use in this country on their own voters,” said one attender.

```

2019-11-13 23:08:50 UTC  

lol

2019-11-13 23:08:51 UTC  

That's how I feel about every convo in here

2019-11-13 23:10:15 UTC  

I think we should do a population exchange, let the authoritarians move to Russia and let the more american-like Russians move here

2019-11-14 08:48:31 UTC  

```Here was Jordan's argument:

We needed to make sure Ukraine is not corrupt, so we witheld the military aid and asked them to do something corrupt, and they didn't do that corrupt thing (although they were about to), so they passed the test and got the aid.

Also the people here don't have direct knowledge, but we are not calling for the people with direct knowledge to testify. Also we need the whistleblower, who has no first hand knowledge, to testify.

Also we have no idea who the whistleblower is, but we are also sure they are a Biden ally and a Democrat who hates the President.```

2019-11-14 11:22:10 UTC  

Did Republicans raise any valid points during the hearings?

2019-11-14 11:22:19 UTC  

Or was it all theatrics and banging on the table?

2019-11-14 11:57:51 UTC  

I watched a decent amount, it was very bad

2019-11-14 11:58:19 UTC  

It might fool some of their base though, because they are good at making irrelevant points seems relevant(to their people)

2019-11-14 12:13:29 UTC  

I only watched some bits and pieces, but it did look like a complete circus on their behalf.

2019-11-14 12:13:39 UTC  

Nunes was an embarrassment as usual.

2019-11-14 12:14:31 UTC  

So was Steve Castor.

2019-11-14 12:14:56 UTC  

And I am getting the feeling that there's an organized effort in discouraging the neutral viewer from even participating in the hearings.

2019-11-14 12:15:34 UTC  

I somehow doubt that the regular person who's not actively invested in politics will sit down and go through conspiracy theories and soap opera monologues from these clowns.

2019-11-14 12:16:15 UTC  

from the Republicans? To me, they want to make it seem like the Democrats are inflating a non-issue to a major issue, while trying to keep as many people from testifying as possible

2019-11-14 12:16:19 UTC  

And then, little by little, the entire process gets dismissed, which is exactly what Republicans aim for I think.

2019-11-14 12:17:55 UTC  

Some like Jordan are clearly going for soundbites and clips showing strength, etc

2019-11-14 12:18:14 UTC  

like the Ben Shapiro tactic of looking like you are winning regardless of what is actually being said

2019-11-14 12:19:30 UTC  

I was gonna say he is definitely the Ben Shapiro stunt double in the House Oversight Committee.

2019-11-14 12:20:10 UTC  

His entire way of communicating resembles Shapiro's dialectic maneuvers.

2019-11-14 12:20:28 UTC  

Or, well, Shapiro's resembles Jordan's.

2019-11-14 12:21:18 UTC  

He's been a politician his whole life AFAIK

2019-11-14 12:21:30 UTC  

college wrestler, law degree, but basically in politics since getting his masters

2019-11-14 12:22:01 UTC  

Ironic considering Republics are always saying Bernie has never had a real job etc

2019-11-14 12:22:28 UTC  

The two-party system is fundamentally flawed.

2019-11-14 12:22:54 UTC  

The two party system has no one to blame but the people

2019-11-14 12:23:02 UTC  

I think that's what makes smart and educated guys commit to being obviously dishonest during their lifetime as politicians.

2019-11-14 12:23:15 UTC  

well, the two-party system is a symptom of a flaw in non proportionate system

2019-11-14 12:23:33 UTC  

I cannot imagine that a person like Jim Jordan is morally unaware to the point where he doesn't see anything wrong with what his entire party is doing.

2019-11-14 12:23:38 UTC  

He is absolutely not an idiot.

2019-11-14 12:23:55 UTC  

No doubt. they make a conscious choice to be that way

2019-11-14 12:24:02 UTC  

A criminal class in kind if not in name

2019-11-14 12:26:37 UTC  

As Trump would say, "Sad!".

2019-11-14 12:26:39 UTC  

Often times they don't have the skills for other amoral jobs

2019-11-14 12:26:59 UTC  

Yes, but apparently being a stooge doesn't require much of anything.

2019-11-14 12:27:14 UTC  

In this case, it's a performance art

2019-11-14 12:27:19 UTC  

Yeah.

2019-11-14 12:28:28 UTC  

I don't think much will come of these hearings tbf.

2019-11-14 12:29:02 UTC  

Trump is orange

2019-11-14 12:29:05 UTC  

Democrats only hope that they create enough negative coverage for Trump that he's voted out in 2020.