Message from @Sh0t

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2019-12-29 20:45:05 UTC  

house prices(probably thanks to the low intrest rate) has been sick

2019-12-29 20:46:04 UTC  

over 20 years, household debt to gdp ratio in sweden has gone from about 43 to 90

2019-12-29 20:46:23 UTC  

all while trying to run a balanced budget with high taxes for the government

2019-12-29 20:46:30 UTC  

Whistleblower exposed

2019-12-29 20:47:58 UTC  

@Sh0t yeah.. But I guess U.K and most other EU countries have done the same.

2019-12-29 20:47:59 UTC  

GG @kotten, you just advanced to level 9!

2019-12-29 20:48:01 UTC  

It's really weird

2019-12-29 20:50:07 UTC  

Each one is a bit differnt, all else being equal, you can pad it with a trade surplus, but the fundamental problem is a misunderstand of how these fiat currencies operate

2019-12-29 20:50:40 UTC  

Assuming a trade balance, if the gov runs a surplus, the private sector has to run a deficit

2019-12-29 20:51:04 UTC  

That means either lower quality of life or added debt(usually debt until it can't be handled)

2019-12-29 20:51:31 UTC  

Sweden has high levels of taxation to try and be 'responsible' and run a balanced budget or a slight surplus, but it's a mistake

2019-12-29 20:51:40 UTC  

whats the endgame with these fiat currencies?

2019-12-29 20:51:53 UTC  

Nothing, they can go on forever

2019-12-29 20:52:11 UTC  

I mean

2019-12-29 20:52:12 UTC  

okay..

2019-12-29 20:52:16 UTC  

So 60's

2019-12-29 20:52:26 UTC  

you could work of your house after like a few years

2019-12-29 20:52:37 UTC  

today you look at 50 years to pay it off

2019-12-29 20:52:50 UTC  

the debt ratio is a consequence of trying to run a balanced budget

2019-12-29 20:53:01 UTC  

it's also why worker's share of gross income falls

2019-12-29 20:53:22 UTC  

It's an accounting identity, essentially, very similar to thermodynamics

2019-12-29 20:53:53 UTC  

the root misunderstanding is the role of banks, they are not intermediaries, credit emission is what adds to the money supply and aggregate demand

2019-12-29 20:54:51 UTC  

it's also what pushes down the interest rate which hurts anybody looking for fixed income, encouraging them to find exotic substitutes

2019-12-29 20:56:03 UTC  

yeah it's so fucked up..I am so angry I never invested my money.

2019-12-29 20:56:29 UTC  

not too late to ride another wave in the US pump

2019-12-29 20:56:36 UTC  

but I really wanted to be as close to debt free as possible when buying a house, but at some point you just loose money quicker than they build up

2019-12-29 20:57:03 UTC  

Fuck no, I havn't invested in like the 5 years I've been making money.. I am waiting for the fall

2019-12-29 20:57:13 UTC  

cycles and shit

2019-12-29 20:57:24 UTC  

you might be waiting a long time, don't fight the trend

2019-12-29 20:57:39 UTC  

people have been going bankrupt waiitng for that, shorting themselves into poverty

2019-12-29 20:57:44 UTC  

Isn't it lik ~10 years

2019-12-29 20:57:46 UTC  

2008

2019-12-29 20:57:54 UTC  

there was the it bubble end of 90s?

2019-12-29 20:58:07 UTC  

doesn't matter, it's an open ended system, you can have the real economy rotting while the markets pump

2019-12-29 20:58:24 UTC  

all you care about is the nominal gains in the market if you are trying to make money

2019-12-29 20:58:55 UTC  

I would say the US economy is already in recession, but that doesn't mean the market will necessarily crash

2019-12-29 20:59:03 UTC  

No I think I'll be doing what any right winger would be doing.

Prepping, gardening

2019-12-29 20:59:16 UTC  

I hate that system

2019-12-29 20:59:27 UTC  

You can do both

2019-12-29 20:59:31 UTC  

also trade against bots