Message from @Vlad

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2020-02-05 16:10:43 UTC  

In your own words.

2020-02-05 16:10:45 UTC  

@Yusa, I couldn't read the WSJ article because of paywall, but here goes anyway:

1) NAFTA was good, and USMCA was too in principle, but not in practice; jobs were outsourced instead of pushed back into the US, because companies didn't have to subject themselves to paying 16 dollars/h when they could pay much less plus deduct healthcare costs in Mexico for example. Idk what kind of business "genius" Trump is if he couldn't predict that would happen.

2) Government favouring any religion and/or belief over another automatically dismantles any idea that it's protecting religious freedom; there's plenty of evidence for that around, and I think you would agree (think Charlottesville, Muslim ban, etc.)

3) I honestly got no idea what the benefit of this is. It sounds like a meaningless technicality to me, but feel free to add share why this matters so much and how it exemplifies Trump's values.

2020-02-05 16:10:48 UTC  

This is not how debate works

2020-02-05 16:10:54 UTC  

fuck typing on phone btw.

2020-02-05 16:11:04 UTC  

fuck typing on phone very much.

2020-02-05 16:11:24 UTC  

Lol, I completely understand Vlad

2020-02-05 16:11:35 UTC  

@Yusa ok, 1. Trump has done nothing to improve trade deals.

2020-02-05 16:11:47 UTC  

And you have not provided any evidence that suggests otherwise

2020-02-05 16:12:20 UTC  

2. Trump has enacted several anti-religious freedom policies, including the Muslim ban. He is against religious freedom

2020-02-05 16:12:31 UTC  

@Deleted User you ask for sources than tell us that you’re not going to read them

2020-02-05 16:12:51 UTC  

Basically every economist out there is criticizing Trump’s trade policies. It’s one of the few things economists have a consensus on

2020-02-05 16:12:55 UTC  

3. Lowering regulation is a bad thing, it leads to dead weight loss and lowers the health of Americans and makes the market less free.

2020-02-05 16:13:05 UTC  

None of your sources refute any of my points

2020-02-05 16:13:11 UTC  

@Vlad
1. Sorry, I’ll grab different evidence for that
2. When is he favoring a certain religion?
3. Did you read any of the articles I sent? The benefit is shown there.

2020-02-05 16:13:16 UTC  

This is why you have to make claims BEFORE you provide sources

2020-02-05 16:13:33 UTC  

I told you when, @Yusa. I gave you a couple of irrefutable examples.

2020-02-05 16:13:39 UTC  

2. The Muslim ban favors religions that are not Muslim.

2020-02-05 16:13:40 UTC  

I read them, and I am not convinced.

2020-02-05 16:13:54 UTC  

3. Yes I read them, there is no evidence that refutes my points in there.

2020-02-05 16:14:23 UTC  

@Deleted User
1. That’s your opinion
2. What Muslim ban?
3. Regulations are good, but extreme regulations are dangerous

2020-02-05 16:14:29 UTC  

What Muslim ban?

2020-02-05 16:14:30 UTC  

LOL

2020-02-05 16:14:40 UTC  

Come on, man.

2020-02-05 16:14:55 UTC  

@Vlad Maybe some examples of over regulation will convince you?

2020-02-05 16:14:58 UTC  

Executive Order 13769.

2020-02-05 16:15:01 UTC  

I’ll grab some

2020-02-05 16:15:05 UTC  

Sure, go ahead.

2020-02-05 16:15:12 UTC  

@Yusa that’s not my opinion, that is fact

2020-02-05 16:15:13 UTC  

I've read opinions pushing both sides.

2020-02-05 16:15:23 UTC  

I am on the fence personally.

2020-02-05 16:15:28 UTC  

3. America had no extreme regulation.

2020-02-05 16:15:54 UTC  

@Vlad @Deleted User those aren’t Muslim bans, those are terrorist bans

2020-02-05 16:15:59 UTC  

hahaha

2020-02-05 16:16:03 UTC  

Just a sec

2020-02-05 16:16:03 UTC  

Lol

2020-02-05 16:16:09 UTC  

dude

2020-02-05 16:16:10 UTC  

come on

2020-02-05 16:16:11 UTC  

hahahaha

2020-02-05 16:16:16 UTC  

Read up on it yourself

2020-02-05 16:16:20 UTC  

Then why do they not target terrorists?

2020-02-05 16:16:22 UTC  

I have, yeah.