Message from @wuzamarine

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2020-02-12 17:53:35 UTC  

Crash

2020-02-12 17:58:47 UTC  

@Bleach Clinton imposed a luxury tax and the economy did just fine.
Rich people save their money, romoving it from circulation. A bad thing.
Poor people spend 100%. The ideal.

2020-02-12 17:58:47 UTC  

GG @wuzamarine, you just advanced to level 5!

2020-02-12 17:58:57 UTC  

Im lazy hold on

2020-02-12 18:00:15 UTC  

If you invest $10m at a $100m valuation into a company.

That $10m you invested gave you 10% of the company for a net worth of 10m usd. Under a 8% wealth tax you now have to pay 800,000 in taxes every year on this investment.

Now you don't have this money in liquid you have it in assets. So you are forced to sell assets to hold value.

This is also economically retarded as 8% growth breaks even then factoring in the average 2% inflation you need over 10% growth.

You also have to factor in that 10% growth under bernie is taxed 60% so 10% would give only 4% then 2% after inflation

Under an 8% wealth tax a 20% profit margin would net 0% profit and after a 2% inflation rate you actually lose 2% of your wealth if your stocks grow 20% yoy.

2020-02-12 18:05:07 UTC  

"wealth tax you now have to pay 800,000 in taxes every year on this investment."

Baloney. You are only paying tax on your gains. Hence "capital gains tax".

2020-02-12 18:14:03 UTC  

rich people save their money in banks (who invest their money) or in investments. they dont stuff it under the mattress

2020-02-12 18:14:55 UTC  

we already have capital gains tax. how would wealth tax be different from capital gains tax?

2020-02-12 18:20:07 UTC  

so bernie couldn't even beat buttigieg by 5k votes in New Hampshire? that's Vermont's neighbor... pretty pathetic tbh

2020-02-12 18:26:40 UTC  

@BarronVon
Bullpuckey. They store their money in tax havens.

2020-02-12 18:29:46 UTC  

tax havens like banks?

2020-02-12 18:29:53 UTC  

banks that invest the money they have?

2020-02-12 18:30:22 UTC  

Corporate tax was 67% for years and USA did fine.
Reagan gaffed the tax bill off on the middle class and USA has been struggling ever since.

2020-02-12 18:30:46 UTC  

just gonna ignore that ur wrong about where they store their wealth?

2020-02-12 18:30:46 UTC  

London is a tax haven. Brussel will be the next, after Brexit.

2020-02-12 18:30:54 UTC  

what is a tax haven?

2020-02-12 18:31:17 UTC  

u think when money is in a bank that it isnt being used in the economy anymore?

2020-02-12 18:31:47 UTC  

Where you escape capital gains tax!

2020-02-12 18:32:17 UTC  

lol ur clueless about money. banking. investing. taxes.

2020-02-12 18:32:17 UTC  

That's why you should keep your money in a shoebox

2020-02-12 18:32:49 UTC  

thanks bud I get I know what a tax haven is.

2020-02-12 18:32:53 UTC  

Looks like you are

2020-02-12 18:33:09 UTC  

@Bleach Clinton imposed a luxury tax and the economy did just fine.
Rich people save their money, romoving it from circulation. A bad thing.
Poor people spend 100%. The ideal.

2020-02-12 18:33:25 UTC  

u said rich people remove their money from circulation...

2020-02-12 18:33:29 UTC  

explain how

2020-02-12 18:33:55 UTC  

A luxury tax != capital gains tax.

2020-02-12 18:34:13 UTC  

how do rich people remove their money from circulation

2020-02-12 18:34:28 UTC  

by investing instead of speading it

2020-02-12 18:34:50 UTC  

investing isnt removing it from circulation. that's the epitome of circulating money

2020-02-12 18:34:58 UTC  

Bullshit

2020-02-12 18:35:10 UTC  

how do businesses get capital to start up?

2020-02-12 18:35:18 UTC  

how do people get loans to buy a house?

2020-02-12 18:35:35 UTC  

banks need to have a reserve of cash

2020-02-12 18:35:45 UTC  

even in a bank ur money is being recirculated

2020-02-12 18:36:03 UTC  

A loan.
But a business loan is not stock or a commodities investment

2020-02-12 18:36:24 UTC  

all investments are used to further grow business

2020-02-12 18:36:53 UTC  

Corporate taxes suck

2020-02-12 18:36:56 UTC  

if they were putting to money into a functioning business, that would be fine.
Most store in tax havens or put their money in a commodity.

2020-02-12 18:37:11 UTC  

or a fund

2020-02-12 18:37:16 UTC  

Putting your money in a commodity or fund is investment lol