Message from @j j
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they don't feel socialism should be forced on people, but they are fundamentally anti-capitalist and believe the government should urge privately owned businesses toward granting workers as much control as possible
thats what ds is
i don't really care if you're not that bad of a person
you should not get to vote
Criminals are mentally unstable should not vote
Who*
But where has Bernie said he wants to have the workers own the means of production? @j j
He's definitely a reformist, but he doesn't seem to be advocating for that to be the eventual goal
im not bernie
So the people who know the conditions of jail should not be able to vote ???
i dont follow his every move
I know
he's not a socialist
^
but you think that would be important
he's a democratic socialist
wait
yes we are saying that
which is basically capitalism
.
its not
Yes
it is
but with benefits
yes it is
it's like saying Norway isn't capitalist
or Dirigisme isn't capitalist
they have very free markets
you didnt add the with benefits part-
i agree with you now
But that isn't important
capitalism w benefits
yea
i thought you meant bare capitalism
what
i mean
what's the point of arguing with you if you just agree
why are you arguing with me
lol what
aren't we meant to reach a middle ground