democratic socialism isnt about immediate shut down of private ownership thought

they should not be allowed to vote

He wants to make it ok for people to illegally cross the border another radical policy

rapists and murderers should die

Just because you murder someone doesn’t mean you’re a bad person

they should get no say whatsoever

they don't feel socialism should be forced on people, but they are fundamentally anti-capitalist and believe the government should urge privately owned businesses toward granting workers as much control as possible

thats what ds is

i don't really care if you're not that bad of a person

you should not get to vote

Criminals are mentally unstable should not vote

Who*

But where has Bernie said he wants to have the workers own the means of production? @j j

He's definitely a reformist, but he doesn't seem to be advocating for that to be the eventual goal

im not bernie

So the people who know the conditions of jail should not be able to vote ???

i dont follow his every move

I know

he's not a socialist

^

but you think that would be important

he's a democratic socialist

wait

yes we are saying that

which is basically capitalism

.

no

its not

Yes

it is

but with benefits

yes it is

it's like saying Norway isn't capitalist

or Dirigisme isn't capitalist

they have very free markets

you didnt add the with benefits part-

i agree with you now

But that isn't important

capitalism w benefits

yea

i thought you meant bare capitalism