Message from @elwolf6

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2020-04-08 19:48:14 UTC  

are the people who arent represented in the stats

2020-04-08 19:48:19 UTC  

which skew the numbers up

2020-04-08 19:48:24 UTC  

Huh?

2020-04-08 19:48:44 UTC  

Did you not see the data above? 27% of people with serious medical conditions skip reccomended tests

2020-04-08 19:48:47 UTC  

if the nhs lopped the most vulnerable 9% off its patients of its reported numbers

2020-04-08 19:48:57 UTC  

ok champ

2020-04-08 19:49:00 UTC  

i see it

2020-04-08 19:49:12 UTC  

Of these people, 23% had a negative effect on health.

2020-04-08 19:49:15 UTC  

ok

2020-04-08 19:49:15 UTC  

I.e condition worsened.

2020-04-08 19:49:24 UTC  

And that 23% does not mean death either

2020-04-08 19:49:31 UTC  

???

2020-04-08 19:49:37 UTC  

whats your point here

2020-04-08 19:49:42 UTC  

your agreeing with my case

2020-04-08 19:49:52 UTC  

That we can reasonably conclude any effect on survival rates would be small or negligible.

2020-04-08 19:49:57 UTC  

no

2020-04-08 19:50:03 UTC  

we cannot reasonably conclude

2020-04-08 19:50:03 UTC  

I am gonna say the n word

2020-04-08 19:50:04 UTC  

Because the vast majority of people are diagnosed.

2020-04-08 19:50:06 UTC  

that the poorest people

2020-04-08 19:50:14 UTC  

niggerrrrr

2020-04-08 19:50:18 UTC  

the ones who are the most likely to die of cnacer

2020-04-08 19:50:22 UTC  

are not in fact dying of cancer

2020-04-08 19:50:27 UTC  

because reasons

2020-04-08 19:51:00 UTC  

Yeah but you aren't proving that, the data I gave was on people with serious med conditions.

2020-04-08 19:51:11 UTC  

This includes everyone, the people who skip because of costs tend to be poorer.

2020-04-08 19:51:23 UTC  

my entire argument is that there seems to be around 7% of the us population that cannot afford adequate medical treatment; these are the people who are at the greatest risk of diseases. these people are left out of survival data thus skewing the numbers up

2020-04-08 19:51:30 UTC  

And of these poorer people, 23% found a reduction in condition.

2020-04-08 19:51:33 UTC  

the data you gave supports my argument

2020-04-08 19:51:50 UTC  

23% of 27% is around 7%

2020-04-08 19:52:07 UTC  

How? My data is arguing the *vast majority* of people consume tests, and 23% of the 27% who *skip* see their condition *worsen*

2020-04-08 19:52:16 UTC  

yes

2020-04-08 19:52:20 UTC  

This worsen does not equal deaths, which is an even lower percentage

2020-04-08 19:52:25 UTC  

the people who dont consume tests

2020-04-08 19:52:34 UTC  

see their conditions worsen in some cases

2020-04-08 19:52:42 UTC  

this is not represented in the survival statistics

2020-04-08 19:52:43 UTC  

And in even smaller cases, die.

2020-04-08 19:52:58 UTC  

what do you think worsened conditions mean in relation to cancer

2020-04-08 19:53:02 UTC  

While that may be true, it does not change the statistic much. Because they're a tiny fraction of the population.

2020-04-08 19:53:11 UTC  

As in stage 1 becomes stage 2

2020-04-08 19:53:15 UTC  

Or symptoms become worse.